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Mental Health · Curable and Alan Gordon LCSW

Tell Me About Your Pain

by Curable and Alan Gordon LCSW

When it comes to chronic pain, everyone has a unique story to tell. But when it comes to the fears, doubts and struggles around pain, we all have much more in common. Join hosts Alan Gordon, LCSW (Founder of the Pain Psychology Center) and Alon Ziv as they respond to the experiences of real chronic pain sufferers and provide techniques based on the latest neuroscience to help listeners overcome chronic pain. Powered by Curable, an online program that teaches people to use evidence-based techniques to relieve chronic pain. For updates and more information about Tell Me About Your Pain, visit curablehealth.com/tellmeaboutyourpain

Latest episodes

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What Is the Most Important Tool for Overcoming Pain?

Every chronic pain sufferer is searching for the key that will finally unlock their recovery. In the final episode of Tell Me About Your Pain, callers from all over the w

Feb 2 2022
31 min

Why is 'No' the Most Important Word for Healing Pain?

Alan and Alon talk to Christie Uipi, Director of the Better Mind Center, who recently participated in a groundbreaking study on the treatment of chronic pain. Christie ex

Dec 8 2021
37 min

How Do I Teach My Brain to Deactivate My Pain?

Fear is the fuel that keeps chronic pain alive. But as many pain sufferers know, it's hard to overcome that fear when it feels so powerful and so automatic. In this episo

Aug 25 2021
31 min

How Do I Feel My Emotions, and How Can That Help My Pain?

Alan and Alon talk about the role of emotions in chronic pain. They discuss the benefits of tapping into difficult emotions, and provide a simple and effective technique

Jul 28 2021
34 min

I’m Trying So Hard to Get Rid of My Pain, Why Isn’t It Working?

Many chronic pain sufferers know the heartbreak of working so hard on their recovery, but not seeing any improvement. In this episode, Alan talks to Paula who's endured c

May 19 2021
38 min

How Can I Heal My Pain by Making My Brain Feel Safe?

In this episode, Alan and Alon explain how making your brain feel safe deactivates chronic pain. Alan talks to Laura, a pain sufferer who's been in "danger mode" for many

Feb 24 2021
29 min

How Can I Diagnose My Pain Like a Pain Specialist?

In this episode, Alan talks to Howard Schubiner, MD, one of the pioneers of mind-body medicine. Dr. Schubiner has developed a unique protocol to help patients determine w

Dec 28 2020
31 min

How Do I Use Both My Left AND Right Brain to Overcome Pain?

In this episode, Alan and Alon explain how you can use your left brain and your right brain together, to overcome pain. The left hemisphere of the brain is generally look

Dec 2 2020
32 min

Can Changing My Thoughts Improve My Pain?

Many chronic pain sufferers struggle with negative thoughts like self-criticism, pressure, and fear. Not surprisingly, this type of thinking makes our pain worse. In this

Sep 16 2020
30 min

How Do I Get to the Root of My Pain?

Living with chronic pain means living with chronic worry. But it's actually this fear, frustration, and despair around the pain that keeps your pain signals activated. Ev

Aug 12 2020
33 min

How Can I Use Positive Sensations to Heal My Pain?

Alan and Alon introduce the concept of leaning into positive sensations, a technique that rewires your brain and deactivates pain. Alan talks to Emily, a back pain suffer

Jul 15 2020
31 min

What Is Somatic Tracking, and How Can It Help My Pain?

Alan and Alon introduce somatic tracking, the most effective technique they’ve found for overcoming chronic pain. Somatic tracking teaches your brain to reinterpret signa

Jun 17 2020
33 min

How Can I Tell if My Brain is Causing My Pain?

Most chronic pain is caused by pain circuits in the brain that get stuck. But this can be hard to accept when pain feels like it's coming from our bodies. In this episode

May 27 2020
32 min

What’s the Key to Breaking the Pain Cycle?

Alan and Alon discuss the science behind the “pain-fear cycle" and speak with real chronic pain sufferers to examine how it plays out in the real world. Amber, who suffer

Apr 15 2020
23 min

How Do I Manage Chronic Pain In the Wake of Coronavirus?

Chronic pain sufferers share their struggles with navigating Coronavirus anxiety. Kristin grapples with feelings of uncertainty, while Bethany has a difficult time cultiv

Mar 21 2020
25 min

What listeners say

A curated, balanced selection of Apple Podcasts reviews.

I struggled with pelvic pain (IC) for four years before discovering this podcast through the Curable app. I had tried everything— countless doctors, PT, diets, and supplements —yet nothing brought lasting relief. At one point, I truly believed I’d be in pain for the rest of my life. Every day was a challenge. Running has always been something I loved, but I had to give it up for years. Finding this podcast felt like a lifeline—truly heaven-sent. I had so many “aha” moments while listening, and for the first time, I felt like I truly understood my condition. Today, my pain is nearly gone. I’m running again and living a life I never thought would be possible just a few years ago. If you’re suffering from chronic pain you need to drop everything you’re doing and listen now!

MackJ2288 · Jul 2025

As a PT, I have been recommending this podcast to my patients for the last 3 years with wonderful success! If they are hesitant to listen on their own …I play episodes during treatments. I have listened to them so many times I have the episodes memorized now and play specific ones that pertain to each patient’s concerns. I have multiple copies of their book “The Way Out” to loan out to augment patient education! Episode #3 with Greg the football player is a powerful testimony for anyone with a spinal MRI report.

CRS PT · Jul 2025

I went from marathon to bedridden in a matter of months in my long covid journey. I suffered debilitating symptoms for months before finding mind body work and brain retraining. I cannot overstate how important this work is - it saved me from the darkest chapter of my life. Understanding that my symptoms were neuropathic and adopting journaling, meditation, and somatic tracking was the most important thing in my healing journey. Recovery is possible.

Michelle McK · Jul 2024

After 4 years of diagnosis, therapies, and pills I found your book and pod cast. My pain is 90% better. All of the strategies have helped me so much. Thank you!!!

Scotenp · May 2024

Just listened to “how can I tell if my brain is causing my pain”. Host tells person and live audience that gardening and vacuuming are the same - both postures hunched over. Not true. Gardening is involves forceful, stabbing into earth with arms and legs. Activates big muscles. For those with pains related to muscle groups that we work together, fascial tightness can result in wrong muscle groups being used for the activity. Small muscles along spine as opposed to big muscles. That’s what happens with vacuuming. It’s not what happens with gardening if you are digging. I’ve been working on my pain for six years with PT/bodywork person. She made me aware of this. Take a look at Meyers book Anatomy Trains – this is about relationship between muscles in the body and fascia that wraps them in groups. At another point in the podcast he says pain that moves around is a clue to it being brain pain. Fascial lines are connected to each other. Your pain moves around because different parts of your fascia become tight or restricted as you use your muscles. The only positive thing I would say about this podcast after sampling 2 episodes is that yes, fear of pain causes you to tense up. That’s true. I find if I accept that I am working on my pain and try to have a more relaxed attitude about it, I don’t compound it with tightening up my diaphragm/pelvic floor. But some of that is unavoidable because it’s sub- cortical. I have recently tried NMES device- very helpful. Would be the exact opposite approach to this podcast’s focus on your concious mind. ( btw I am just regular person not any kind of specialist and not paid by anybody to promote or disprove anything! Just a person still working on resolving pain.)

jeniferst · Nov 2023

I believe that there is a strong psychological component to pain, and it’s good to hear the issue brought to a wider audience. But the calls with listeners I find deceptive. The hosts speak to dlstraught callers in soothing tones and inevitably within moments, the callers say they feel better. But it is natural for a caller, especially one wanting to believe in TMS, to lean toward telling the host what he wants to hear. There is an element of flim-flam or faith healing to these calls that does a disservice to Sarno and his work.

Lidget26 · Oct 2022

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