Mental Health · Curable and Alan Gordon LCSW
by Curable and Alan Gordon LCSW
When it comes to chronic pain, everyone has a unique story to tell. But when it comes to the fears, doubts and struggles around pain, we all have much more in common. Join hosts Alan Gordon, LCSW (Founder of the Pain Psychology Center) and Alon Ziv as they respond to the experiences of real chronic pain sufferers and provide techniques based on the latest neuroscience to help listeners overcome chronic pain. Powered by Curable, an online program that teaches people to use evidence-based techniques to relieve chronic pain. For updates and more information about Tell Me About Your Pain, visit curablehealth.com/tellmeaboutyourpain
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I struggled with pelvic pain (IC) for four years before discovering this podcast through the Curable app. I had tried everything— countless doctors, PT, diets, and supplements —yet nothing brought lasting relief. At one point, I truly believed I’d be in pain for the rest of my life. Every day was a challenge. Running has always been something I loved, but I had to give it up for years. Finding this podcast felt like a lifeline—truly heaven-sent. I had so many “aha” moments while listening, and for the first time, I felt like I truly understood my condition. Today, my pain is nearly gone. I’m running again and living a life I never thought would be possible just a few years ago. If you’re suffering from chronic pain you need to drop everything you’re doing and listen now!
As a PT, I have been recommending this podcast to my patients for the last 3 years with wonderful success! If they are hesitant to listen on their own …I play episodes during treatments. I have listened to them so many times I have the episodes memorized now and play specific ones that pertain to each patient’s concerns. I have multiple copies of their book “The Way Out” to loan out to augment patient education! Episode #3 with Greg the football player is a powerful testimony for anyone with a spinal MRI report.
I went from marathon to bedridden in a matter of months in my long covid journey. I suffered debilitating symptoms for months before finding mind body work and brain retraining. I cannot overstate how important this work is - it saved me from the darkest chapter of my life. Understanding that my symptoms were neuropathic and adopting journaling, meditation, and somatic tracking was the most important thing in my healing journey. Recovery is possible.
After 4 years of diagnosis, therapies, and pills I found your book and pod cast. My pain is 90% better. All of the strategies have helped me so much. Thank you!!!
Just listened to “how can I tell if my brain is causing my pain”. Host tells person and live audience that gardening and vacuuming are the same - both postures hunched over. Not true. Gardening is involves forceful, stabbing into earth with arms and legs. Activates big muscles. For those with pains related to muscle groups that we work together, fascial tightness can result in wrong muscle groups being used for the activity. Small muscles along spine as opposed to big muscles. That’s what happens with vacuuming. It’s not what happens with gardening if you are digging. I’ve been working on my pain for six years with PT/bodywork person. She made me aware of this. Take a look at Meyers book Anatomy Trains – this is about relationship between muscles in the body and fascia that wraps them in groups. At another point in the podcast he says pain that moves around is a clue to it being brain pain. Fascial lines are connected to each other. Your pain moves around because different parts of your fascia become tight or restricted as you use your muscles. The only positive thing I would say about this podcast after sampling 2 episodes is that yes, fear of pain causes you to tense up. That’s true. I find if I accept that I am working on my pain and try to have a more relaxed attitude about it, I don’t compound it with tightening up my diaphragm/pelvic floor. But some of that is unavoidable because it’s sub- cortical. I have recently tried NMES device- very helpful. Would be the exact opposite approach to this podcast’s focus on your concious mind. ( btw I am just regular person not any kind of specialist and not paid by anybody to promote or disprove anything! Just a person still working on resolving pain.)
I believe that there is a strong psychological component to pain, and it’s good to hear the issue brought to a wider audience. But the calls with listeners I find deceptive. The hosts speak to dlstraught callers in soothing tones and inevitably within moments, the callers say they feel better. But it is natural for a caller, especially one wanting to believe in TMS, to lean toward telling the host what he wants to hear. There is an element of flim-flam or faith healing to these calls that does a disservice to Sarno and his work.
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