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Health & Fitness · Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes

Maintenance Phase

by Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes

Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.

Latest episodes

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Why Don't We Have a Surgeon General?

We’re nearly halfway through Trump's second term and we still don’t have a Surgeon General. What gives? Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey&apos

Jul 27
1 h 13 min

Salt

In the 1980s, a low-sodium diet was seen as the gold standard for healthy behavior. In 2026, salt has been repackaged as “electrolytes” and is now cast as a core componen

Jun 10
53 min

Tim Ferriss’s "The 4-Hour Body" (feat. Peter Shamshiri)

We're joined by Mike's If Books Could Kill co-host to revisit a biohacking diet book for the boys. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey&apos

Apr 16
1 h 08 min

Russell Brand Part 2

What do you do when you've flamed out as a Hollywood actor, a political commentator and a wellness guru? You make a YouTube channel. Support us: Hear bonus episode

Apr 1
1 h 07 min

Russell Brand Part 1

Tracing the left-to-right political trajectory of the unfunniest man in British comedy. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aub

Mar 17
1 h 14 min

The Diet Crimes of Metabolife

The rags-to-riches tale of how an illegal methamphetamine manufacturer became a legal methamphetamine manufacturer. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubr

Feb 12
57 min

Raw Milk

Once widely banned, raw milk consumption is on the rise and states are repealing their bans. No one’s happier about that than the far right. How did we get here? NOTE: I

Nov 13 2025
1 h 05 min

The Food Babe

One blogger bravely pushes back against Starbucks, Subway and basic scientific facts. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubre

Sep 25 2025
52 min

Seed Oils

Why are you, as a man, afraid of sunflowers. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to Mike's other

Aug 26 2025
1 h 18 min

Herbalife

We’re talking about our first diet MLM and IT’S A REAL DOOZY! Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to M

Jul 10 2025
56 min

Ultra-Processed Foods

Everyone agrees that processed foods are bad for you. When it comes to defining what they actually are, however, there is considerably less agreement.  Support us: Hear

Jun 3 2025
1 h 11 min

BONUS: MAHA's First 90 Days

From our Patreon feed, we're catching up with RFK Jr. and his cadre of "Make America Healthy Again" influencers. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Au

May 1 2025
53 min

The Bulletproof Diet

Meet the tech bro on a noble quest to double his lifespan, improve his productivity and irritate his waitress.   Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey&

Mar 26 2025
53 min

Blue Zones

The places where humans live the longest are explained by traditional lifestyles, widespread incest or systematic fraud, there is no fourth option. Thanks to Catherine M

Jan 30 2025
1 h 07 min

BONUS: What's New With RFK Jr.?

Because we live in hell, here is last month's bonus episode about RFK Jr.'s presidential campaign with a new intro about what he could do at HHS. See you next

Dec 20 2024
1 h 12 min

Richard Simmons Isn't Missing

The internet gets weird investigating the "disappearance" of America's gay best friend. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey’s documentary in AU

Nov 21 2024
1 h 05 min

Growing Up Richard Simmons

Before building his fitness empire, America’s most bedazzled fitness guru was a guy named Milton from New Orleans.  Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubr

Oct 25 2024
1 h 01 min

The Myers-Briggs Personality Test

How a mother, a daughter and a crackpot Swiss psychologist gave us the world's most popular Buzzfeed quiz. Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonDonate on PayP

Sep 12 2024
55 min

BONUS: Breaking Down The Latest Anti-Trans Victory Lap

We went a little easy on the Cass Report in our last main feed episode, so we're back to [Mortal Kombat voice] FINISH HIM!!! This was supposed to be a Patreon bonus

Jul 1 2024
1 h 03 min

"Rapid-Onset Gender Dysphoria" Part 2: Panic! At The Endocrinologist.

Thanks to Jules Gill-Peterson (jgillpeterson.com) and Julia Serano (patreon.com/juliaserano) for help researching this episode and Evan Urquhart, Parker Molloy and Kately

Jun 18 2024
1 h 31 min

Chart trend

Position in the Health & Fitness chart (US), last 90 days.

#2
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days in the top 3 since Nov 2024

Chart positions

Where Maintenance Phase ranks today in each Apple Podcasts chart (US, Sep 17, 2026).

#52 ▼ 7 Health & Fitness US

What listeners say

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Thank you both for this work. Your voice is in my ear often, and your kindness has taught me how to be a better person. When I was a younger fat person, I thought it was fatphobic to want to lose weight. Yes, Mike, I was that 20 year old. Your show helped me to understand that it is SOOO NOT about individual behaviors and ALL ABOUT larger messaging and legislature. Who cares if my sister is counting her macros?? I can focus on the larger scale rather than her. There are people dying out there, Kim.

Bug Hopper · Sep 2026

Aubrey and Michael provide the nuance we need: well researched information about how policy affects our lives, validation for the horror show we are experiencing, and much-needed laughs at everything from supplement sheisters to failed tagline puns. Simultaneously my comfort listen and how I have expanded my knowledge on health policy in the U.S.

AKA AKJ · Jul 2026

Can’t suggest this pod enough, I’ve been a listener for three years. Just subscribed and am now experiencing the pleasure of going through subscriber episodes!

picklepicklep!ckle · Jul 2026

I would listen to these two read the terms of agreement for my car lease. There’s not enough episodes. I’ve listened to every single one multiple times. I fall asleep to them every night.

JuliaGigiBoo · Jul 2026

Although in a lot of ways I politically align with Aubrey and Micheal, I think that they, unfortunately, vastly misrepresent the research they discuss on this show. They desperately need to bring in expert opinions and fact checkers, because they don’t actually seem to understand how to properly communicate the complex science they are discussing. I liked this podcast a lot better when they roasted diet books, but even then they didn’t fully understand what they were discussing. I would recommend that any listeners take this podcast with a grain of salt because it is rife with misleading information. There are so many other podcasts that take on the issues discussed here in much better ways. Podcasts that actually stay in their lane of expertise and knowledge, and if needed they bring in experts to discuss complex and multifaceted topics. Unbiased Science, Front Page Fitness, Barbell medicine all do it so much better than MP, and the hosts are far more educated with doctorate degrees. MP should only be used for entertainment, not facts! I strongly recommend following up each episode with The Maintenance Phase Reality Check substack series, as it adds a lot of the nuance and science based commentary that MP so desperately needs.

skellls · Jul 2026

I’ve tried several times to listen to this podcast and each time I end up unfollowing. The hosts over talk each other, laugh so much that it’s impossible to keep up with what they are talking about, and I feel like the episodes have no beginning or end. Every topic starts in the middle and it leaves me asking myself, “What are they talking about?” At first the topics had good thoughts and research. Now they are trying too hard to be funny but falling completely short.

hueyyyyyyyy · Sep 2024

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