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Mental Health · Megan Anna Neff & Patrick Casale

Divergent Conversations

by Megan Anna Neff & Patrick Casale

Dr. Megan Neff and Patrick Casale are two Neurodivergent therapists in a neurotypical world. During this podcast, they’ll talk about their own personal experiences as Autistic-ADHDers. They will reflect on their lived experience as AuDHD mental health professionals, and entrepreneurs, as well as offer clinical guidance, and support. Episodes will be conversational in nature, and they’ll interview other ND Folx to amplify the voices of other neurodivergent advocates and individuals as they share their authentic stories. New episodes will come out weekly, on all major platforms. Megan told Patrick, ”I’ll bring the chaos, You organize it.” This perfectly sums up their working relationship and friendship. Reflections of two neurodivergent clinicians. Raw, Vulnerable, Affirmative As Hell. Follow on instagram.com/divergentconversations Topics include Autism, ADHD, Sleep struggles, Chronic Illness, RSD, Alexithymia, Autistic burnout, Intersectionality, Neuroqueer, Creativity, OCD, Neurodivergence, Affirming Language, Small business ownership, Unpacking Internalized Ableism, and so much more. If you love the podcast, please leave us a 5 star review https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/divergent-conversations/id1662009631 Visit our website for all podcast episodes and sponsorship opportunities divergentpod.com Legal Disclaimer: The content provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be considered medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider or medical professional for personalized advice regarding any medical condition or treatment.

Latest episodes

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Episode 144 (Season 5): Neurodivergent Advocacy in Turbulent Times and The Future of Divergent Conversations

Living through uncertain times as a neurodivergent person can feel overwhelming, with the world constantly shifting and the weight of global and personal challenges pilin

Feb 6
44 min

Episode 143: FLASHBACK — Chronic Health: All Brains Belong [featuring Dr. Mel Houser]

Neuroimmune systems often intertwine with chronic health and neurodivergence, leaving neurodivergent individuals grappling with things like energy management, chronic fat

Jan 30
56 min

Episode 142: FLASHBACK — AuDHD Burnout City: How Autistic and ADHD Burnout Collide and Compensate

ADHD and Autistic burnout can feel like an endless cycle of overwhelm, exhaustion, and frustration—especially for those who live at the intersection of both identities. M

Jan 23
41 min

Episode 141: FLASHBACK — OCD: I-CBT and Neurodivergent Approaches to OCD [featuring Brittany Goff]

Neurodivergent individuals often find mental health topics like OCD, autism, and ADHD intertwined in ways that can complicate their personal narratives and self-identity.

Jan 16
56 min

Episode 140: FLASHBACK — Giftedness: Navigating Giftedness in Marginalized Communities [featuring Sheldon Gay]

As a gifted, BIPOC individual, it can be uniquely challenging to navigate day-to-day experiences and find meaningful connections, especially prior to the discovery of gif

Jan 9
1 h 06 min

Episode 139: FLASHBACK — Autistic Grief and Wellness: Holding Space for Hard Emotions

Grieving the loss of a beloved pet or navigating collective trauma can feel overwhelming, especially for neurodivergent individuals who experience heightened attachment a

Jan 2
55 min

Episode 138: FLASHBACK — Neurodivergent Realities, Rupture & Repair, and Podcast Updates

Prioritizing wellness and authentic connection is essential for neurodivergent individuals, especially during times of low energy or change. This episode highlights how e

Dec 26 2025
47 min

Episode 137: FLASHBACK — Autistic Burnout City: Perpetual Sensory Hell

Living with perpetual Autistic burnout can feel like navigating a world that’s always just a little too overwhelming, exhausting, or out of sync. For neurodivergent peopl

Dec 19 2025
46 min

Episode 136: FLASHBACK — Autistic Burnout City: How Sensory Input Impacts Burnout

Burnout isn’t just about exhaustion—it’s a sensory experience that can leave neurodivergent people feeling stretched to the breaking point. When every sound, smell, or te

Dec 12 2025
51 min

Episode 135 (Season 4): Neurodivergent Identity Arc for Later-in-Life Discovery

The journey to understanding and integrating a later-in-life neurodivergent identity is often filled with relief, confusion, pride, growth, and other complex emotions—all

Dec 5 2025
46 min

Episode 134 (Season 4): Navigating Suicidality and Safety for Neurodivergent Minds

Content Warning: This episode talks about suicide and may be triggering. If you're in crisis or feeling unsafe, please reach out to a crisis line or local resources. We h

Nov 28 2025
38 min

Episode 133 (Season 4): Is Everyone a Little Bit ADHD?

The phrase "everyone’s a little bit ADHD" is coming up more and more lately—but for those who are genuinely ADHD, this can feel dismissive and invalidating. In a world sp

Nov 21 2025
33 min

Episode 132 (Season 4): Is Everyone a Little Bit Autistic?

Hearing "everyone is a little bit Autistic" can feel invalidating and diminish the distinct experiences of Autistic individuals. These comments, often rooted in misunders

Nov 14 2025
31 min

Episode 131 (Season 4): Why ADHD Isn’t About Being Lazy or Unmotivated

Struggling with being labeled "lazy" or "unmotivated" as someone with ADHD can fuel deep shame and misunderstanding. These stereotypes overlook the real challenges and co

Nov 7 2025
37 min

Episode 130 (Season 4): Intelligence Myths About ADHD and Autism

Challenging the stigma that ADHD and Autism are linked to intelligence is critical for fostering self-acceptance and equity in neurodivergent communities. Myths about int

Oct 31 2025
28 min

Episode 129 (Season 4): Breaking Down Language and Labels in Autism Advocacy

The language we use to describe Autistic experiences can shape not only how we see ourselves, but how our needs are understood—or overlooked—by others. In this episode,

Oct 24 2025
35 min

Episode 128 (Season 4): Do Autistic People Want Social Connection?

Autistic people are often stereotyped as uninterested in social connection, but the reality is far more nuanced, and longing for connection can coexist with the need for

Oct 17 2025
45 min

Episode 127 (Season 4): Landmark College: Neuro-Inclusive College to Career Transitions [featuring Jan Coplan]

Navigating the transition from education to the workplace is challenging for anyone, but neurodivergent individuals face unique barriers, from inaccessible application pr

Oct 10 2025
1 h 03 min

Episode 126 (Season 4): Am I Still Me? Post-Diagnosis Identity Spiral

Discovering you're Autistic or ADHD as an adult can turn your whole sense of self upside down. Navigating the emotional aftermath—wondering, "Am I still me?"—often brings

Oct 3 2025
29 min

Episode 125 (Season 4): Hidden Shame of ADHD: Restlessness, Relationships, and Post-Discovery Impact

Discovering you’re ADHD later in life can be a profound and disorienting experience—especially when it means re-examining your relationships, identity, and even your sens

Sep 26 2025
44 min

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#39
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#152 ▲ 33 Mental Health US

What listeners say

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Thank you for modeling taking a break! And- I miss hearing both of your voices talk so authentically and supportively about autism. Especially Patrick- you always bring it back to a real very human place.

Fire Fae · Mar 2025

I love the work of both of these clinicians, however this podcast is lacking in ethnic diversity. Two white hosts with majority white guests is really disheartening. I’m a Black AuDHD clinician who would love to see some ethnic and cultural diversity in the line up. I don’t feel represented.

EHill_MFT · Feb 2025

I’m so grateful I’ve found your podcast. So many of the personal stories resonate for me and make me feel seen and understood in a way I don’t think I ever have. You share generously and clearly and I am grateful. The most recent episode about comfort zone spoke to me The most, everything Patrick shared and Megan too spoke to me so loudly as I go through my own journey of discovering and giving myself permission for accommodations I never let myself believe I needed. There really aren’t words for my gratitude. Thank you. I recommend this podcast for anyone wanting to more deeply understand ADHd and Autism.

rbeccamari · Jan 2025

This podcast has been an incredible source of wisdom, laughter, and inspiration. Dr. Neff and Patrick have a heart-warming and playful rapport that brings their lived experiences to life! I have learned more from this podcast than any graduate course! Thank you!

DBNYC98 · Jan 2025

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