Laugh Lines with Kim & Penn Holderness

American Idol, Empty Nests & Second Acts with Clay Aiken

Friends, the Clay Aiken came to our attic! This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I had SO much fun sitting down with multi-platinum singer, Clay Aiken, to talk about behind-

Rethinking Tech In Schools with Jared Cooney Horvath

Technology is such a huge part of our kids’ lives, especially at school, that we don’t always stop to ask: Is all of it actually helping them learn? This week, neuroscien

Remembering Penn's Mom: Grief, Laughter & Our "Death Wishes"

My mom passed away last week after a very long battle with Alzheimer’s and dementia. If you’ve ever loved someone through this disease, you probably understand how compli

What Our Neurodivergent Kids Need with Dr. Emily King

Even when everything is going right, parenting a neurodivergent kid can be emotional. (And yes, I cry this episode... twice.) This week, Penn and I are joined by our frie

Weird Jobs & Amazing Race Challenges

Recently, Penn and I asked you to tell us about your weirdest summer jobs. From working in customer service for the WOW Chips debacle to a stripping gorilla, you really s

Do We Really Get Along & Alzheimer's Update

Recently, a dear friend asked me: "Do you and your husband actually get along all the time? Tell me the truth." So this week on Laugh Lines, we are pulling back the curta

Rejection Sensitivity & ADHD with Dr. Sasha Hamdani

Have you ever replayed a conversation in your head for three days because someone might have been upset with you? Friend... same. This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I sit

Wait, Are We "Gentle Parenting?" with Jon Fogel

Penn and I have joked about gentle parenting on this podcast more than once. As Gen X parents, it always sounded a little... soft. So when parenting coach Jon Fogel joine

Empty Nest Lessons & Estrogen Shortages

This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I not only strip down due to our A/C being out... AGAIN! We also tackle two things I never expected to happen in the same podcast: Beco

Beach Reads, Blockbuster, & Writing Your Novel with Emily Giffin

What do Blockbuster cards, Duke basketball, and a lifelong dream of writing a novel have in common? Somehow they all end up in this episode! This week, Penn and I are joi

College Advice From Our Daughter, Lola Holderness!

Last year, I was the mom crying in the Target parking lot while buying dorm room supplies. This year? Our daughter Lola is back home after her freshman year of college, a

Career Advice & Gen X Cold Case

This week on Laugh Lines, Penn and I cover a lot of ground... from career advice for creative dreamers to one of the greatest unsolved mysteries of our childhood: Whateve

Attacked by Love Island & Stop Saying "That's The Way It Is"

This week on Laugh Lines, I learned two things about myself: I'm deeply triggered by people yelling at graduation ceremonies and I'm officially old enough to be attacked

Running Man Fights Alzheimer's & Gen X Relics

This week on Laugh Lines, we're making a strong case that the Running Man may be more powerful than we ever realized. After reading a fascinating study on dancing and bra

Courage To Commit with Shawn Johnson East & Andrew East

Ever found yourself stuck in the paralysis of too many choices? This week, we're joined by Shawn Johnson East and Andrew East to talk about their new book, Courage to Com

Gen X Retirement Home

When a visit to a memory care facility turns into a brainstorming session for the ultimate Gen X Retirement Home "in the year of our lord Dolly Parton 2026"... This week

Vacation Realizations & Digestive Situations

This week, Penn and I are back from vacation and sharing our biggest realizations… including why people who travel with carry-on luggage only might actually be in a cult

Dad Jokes & Teen Texts with Dave Ogleton and Chip Leighton

This week on Laugh Lines, we invited two of the funniest dads on the internet to join us. We interview Dave Ogleton (@fitdadceo) - the viral King of Dad Jokes and author

Let’s Do Medium Maycember with Rachel Feintzeig

If your family calendar currently looks like a game of Tetris designed by a sleep-deprived raccoon… welcome to Maycember. It's called Maycember because it's busy like Dec

Kicking Alzheimer's Butt & Your Questions with Dr. Richard Isaacson

If you’ve been following along, you know Penn recently found out he has two copies of the APOE4 gene - basically the “high risk” genetic lottery for Alzheimer’s. And whil