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Zero Click Marketing

by Amanda Natividad

Zero Click Marketing is a marketing strategy podcast about content marketing, audience research, and how brands grow when clicks matter less. Hosted by Amanda Natividad, Chief Evangelist at SparkToro and Co-Author of the book, "Zero Click Marketing," the show explores how marketers reach audiences, build influence, and earn attention in a zero-click internet. New to the show? Start with Episode 2: What Zero Click Marketing Actually Is.

Latest episodes

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The Hardest Parts of Zero Click Marketing (Rand Fishkin returns!)

Rand Fishkin (my co-author!)  is back on the show for a special episode about our new book, Zero Click Marketing. We talk about what surprised us while recording the aud

Oct 13
39 min

The Marketing Skills AI Can’t Give You (with Sarah Stockdale)

Marketing keeps changing. But good marketing? Not so much. Sarah Stockdale, founder and CEO of Growclass, joins me to talk about what still matters as algorithms, AI, at

Oct 6
27 min

How Referral Rock Turns Customer Intel Into a Marketing Strategy (with Josh Ho)

Josh Ho, founder and CEO of ReferralRock, and I chit chat about marketing challenges and opportunities as of late. My fave part of this episode is when Josh explains how

Sep 29
39 min

Why You're Losing to AI and How to Fix It (with Wil Reynolds)

Wil Reynolds joins me to chop it up over what AI is changing — and what it’s revealing — about marketing, expertise, and trust. We talk about using AI without losing your

Sep 22
52 min

A CEO On Marketing in a Clickless, AI-Driven World (with Chris Savage)

Wistia CEO Chris Savage joins me to talk about how marketing has evolved in recent years, especially now as attribution keeps getting harder. We also dig into building su

Sep 15
36 min

The Most Human Marketing Channel Left (with Erica Bonser)

As AI makes it easier to produce more content, podcasting offers something increasingly valuable: unmistakable evidence of a real person behind those ideas. Erica Bonser,

Sep 8
28 min

As Content Gets Cheap, Credibility Gets Expensive

It’s never been easier to create content — which means simply making content isn’t much of an advantage anymore. Today, I talk about what AI changes about the creator eco

Sep 1
12 min

What If You Can’t Prove Your Marketing Worked?

What happens when your marketing is clearly doing something — but attribution can’t tell you exactly what? In this conversation with Wistia’s Talking Too Loud, we dig int

Aug 25
57 min

Field Notes: Reddit Citations Drop 80% in ChatGPT (Don't Care)

This is me reacting in real time to news from Promptwatch and Petra Labs that Reddit just lost about 80% of citations in ChatGPT. TL;DR: chasing platform behavior is not

Aug 20
10 min

[Replay] The LinkedIn Algorithm Is Basically a Party

LinkedIn’s feed has changed since I first published this episode — but the core idea holds up: the platform is trying to understand what you talk about, who should care,

Aug 18
11 min

[Replay] Tell Your Execs: AI Rankings Are BS (with Rand Fishkin)

AI is new, yet somehow it’s already exhausting. Marketers are under constant pressure to adopt more tools, track more things, rethink their strategies, figure out AI visi

Aug 11
35 min

5 Things That Make an Idea Stick

Marketers know how to distribute content. But getting a post, podcast, or report in front of people doesn’t guarantee that its central idea will stick. Today, we dive in

Aug 4
13 min

Zero Click Marketing for Your Mom

The zero click internet sounds like marketing jargon, but the idea is simple: platforms increasingly give people answers without sending them to the original source. Citi

Jul 28
8 min

Why You (Probably) Don’t Need Another Marketing Channel

Good marketing is not about doing more. I explain why every channel creates an ongoing obligation, how opportunity cost shapes modern marketing, and the three filters to

Jul 21
7 min

How Smart Small Businesses Measure Marketing (with Rachel Elsts Downey)

This is what marketing looks like when perfect attribution isn't possible — and why that may actually be freeing. I chat with Rachel Elsts Downey, founder of Share Your G

Jul 14
25 min

Trust Is the New SEO: Marketing in the AI Era (with Kevin Indig)

I chat with my buddy Kevin Indig about what he’s learning in his AI research, along with generative engine optimization, and user behavior in tools like ChatGPT, Gemini,

Jul 7
30 min

AI Doesn't Just Create Demand. It Nurtures It.

In this Field Notes episode, Amanda looks at new research from Similarweb on the downstream impact of AI visibility, plus Seer Interactive’s argument that AI visibility i

Jun 30
13 min

What If AI Visibility Is a Mirror?

When AI puts your brand in the wrong category or compares you to the wrong competitors, it's tempting to dismiss it as a hallucination. But what if AI's mistakes reveal s

Jun 23
20 min

Public Speaking is the Ultimate Zero-Click Marketing (with Jay Acunzo)

What if the best marketing doesn’t drive a click at all — but makes people seek you out? I chat with Jay Acunzo about why public speaking might be the ultimate form of ze

Jun 16
36 min

ZCM Field Notes: 68% of Google Searches Now End Without a Click

Breaking news! Rand Fishkin/SparkToro published a new zero-click search study. In the first four months of 2026, a whopping 68% of Google searches ended without a click.

Jun 10
11 min

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This is one of those rare shows that avoids buzzwords and focuses on real learning. Great for marketing veterans and beginners alike. I love it!

Ian Lurie · May 2026

I spend a lot of time in the world of emotional marketing, so it’s refreshing to get into the weeds of how things actually work. It got me thinking differently about paid, attribution, and how we actually measure impact. Not just theory either. Real, practical takeaways I can apply right away. If you’re new to marketing, start here. Even if you’re not, it’ll still challenge your thinking. We need more of this.

Nickrezendes · Mar 2026

Amanda’s original analysis of how marketing works in 2026 — or if you’re seeing this in 2027, 2028 and beyond— is grounded in traditional, common sense ideas that are overlooked because they seem so traditional. But Amanda finds ways of teasing out new truths and strategies from the tried and true. And that’s how she uncovers what’s next and how to approach it.

DavidK. · Mar 2026

I really like listening to business podcasts but most of them are too long. It’s hard to commit to them when really, I’d rather be watching Good Hang. I just really love how short and efficient this show is. Amanda clearly puts a lot of thought and research into each ep so it’s easily worth the 15 or so minutes.

startlingmacaron · Mar 2026

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