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#54 - Ahmed Muhumed Takes on the Marathon

Ahmed Muhumed joins Jacob and Rory ahead of the World Road Running Championships in Copenhagen and his highly anticipated marathon debut at the New York City Marathon. A

#53 - Jess McClain Is Thinking Bigger: Boston, World Champs & NYC

Jess McClain is back on Out & Back, and a lot has changed since her first visit. After finishing as the top American and setting the American course record at the Boston

#52 - Mailbag Episode: Yomif's World Record, World Ultimate Wild Cards, and Listener Q&A

Episode 52 kicks off with the announcement of the Out and Back live show at Chicago Marathon weekend, Saturday noon at Fleet Feet Chicago, 100-125 tickets at $15 a pop wi

#51 - Between Reps: NYC Fields, Edmonton Half, European Champs, Race Schedule Updates

Jacob is in Kelowna visiting John Gay, and Rory is back in Flagstaff holding it down after defending his Canadian Half Marathon championship in Edmonton, on a course that

#50: The Call-In Show: Hot Takes, Marathon Relay Drafts, and Desert Island Training Questions

Episode 50 means it's time for another call-in show. Six guests phone in with hot takes, hypotheticals, and questions Jacob and Rory answer completely on the fly. No prep

#49 Truett Hanes on Chasing the OTQ and Going All In on a Goal That Scares You

⁠Buy merch: https://outandback.shop/⁠ Truett Hanes is in Flagstaff for a three-week training camp, halfway through it when this was recorded, and it's the most structure

#48 Vincent Ciattei on Winning the US 5000m Title, Training as a Miler at Altitude, and the Dark Sky Squad

⁠Buy merch: https://outandback.shop/⁠ Vincent Ciattei comes straight off USA Track and Field Championships in New York where he finished second in the 1500 by five hundr

#47 Between Reps: Josh Kerr's Record, USAs, and Training Updates

MERCH: https://outandback.shop/ Jacob and Rory are back in Flagstaff after weeks on the road, and Jacob gives an update on his Achilles: no pain in four weeks, mileage c

#46 Madey Dickson on Running 2:28 at Boston, Working Full Time as a Nurse, and Chasing Big Goals at Berlin

Madey Dickson is a full-time ICU and ER nurse who runs 100 miles a week, smashed the OTQ by nine minutes at Boston, and won Puma's Project Three, all while working 12-hou

#45 Between Reps - Summer Heat Training, Josh Kerr's World Record Attempt, and Fall Marathon Field Rumors With Chris Striegel

Jacob, Rory, and Chris Striegel of the Life in Stride Podcast check in for a between reps episode packed with summer training talk and fall marathon buzz. They start with

#44 NAZ Elite Coach Jack Mullaney on Building Team Culture, Alex Masai's Breakout, and Marathon Training Philosophy

Jack Mullaney, head coach of NAZ Elite, joins Jacob and Rory at the Run Flagstaff studio for episode 44. Jack walked into one of the most storied professional running pro

#43 Steph Bruce on 20 Years as a Pro, Founding Picky Bars, the Stamata Project, and What Comes Next

Steph Bruce joins Jacob and Rory at the new Run Flagstaff studio for episode 43 -- recorded six days after she and Rory both ran the Broken Arrow Sky Race Ascent. They st

#42 Listener Q & A - Broken Arrow & MRI Update

NEW MERCH: https://outandback.shop/⁠ Jacob and Rory check in on what's been a rocky few weeks for Jacob's Achilles -- paratendon inflammation that's forced him to pull m

#41 Brady Holmer - High Carb Evidence, Ketone, and How to Actually Sleep Before a Race

Brady Holmer is back for his third appearance, which officially makes him the most tenured guest in Out and Back history. He's a week out from Grandma's Marathon, coming

#40 David Roche - The Rules of High Carb Training, How to Train the Gut, Fatigue Resistance, & Training the Pros

David Roche -- ultra marathoner, elite running coach, and what Rory's calling the godfather of the high carb revolution -- joins the Out and Back for episode 40. He start

#39 Between Reps - Ottawa Marathon Edition

Olympian John Gay, host of the Shakeout Podcast, joins Jacob and Rory one week out from the Ottawa Marathon where John ran 2:14 in his debut and Rory ran 2:09 for third p

#38 Vinny Mauri - Untold Stories from a 2:05 Marathon Debut + Training with the Out & Back Boys in Flagstaff soon?

Blue Collar Middle America Hero Vincent Mauri joins the Out & Back podcast from his woodworking shop after working a full days shift at the local running store. We know h

#37 Molly Seidel - Marathons to Trails, Western States 100 miler, How to keep running fun

Olympic marathon medalist turned trail runner, Molly Seidel, talks about her path from the roads to the trails. From the pavement to trail races to the high-altitude trai

#36 - How to taper for a Marathon and How to Recover After | Shakeout Podcast with John Gay

How to taper for a marathon, How to recover after a marathon & much more, on The Shakeout Podcast with John Gay ahead of his marathon debut. Kava Haven: All the Buzz, No

#35 Between Reps - London Marathon, 2:05 in Ohio, Has the marathon changed forever? Listener Questions!

We try to make sense of the London Marathon, compare it to the Boston Marathon, Talk about the crazy 2:05 in Toledo Ohio and then follow up with some listener questions.