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Marketing · Jason Mlicki & Jeff McKay

Rattle & Pedal: B2B Marketing Podcast

by Jason Mlicki & Jeff McKay

Jason Mlicki, agency leader, and Jeff McKay, former global CMO, discuss growth, marketing, and life in professional services in this weekly podcast. The duo offers divergent thoughts on solving the issues practice leaders and marketers confront—or probably should—including stupid sh*t Marketing should NOT do, how Marketing ruins everything, the BS of professional services, and unleashing your Young Turks. Executive guests and industry experts join frequently to share their insights and experiences. It’s all served up with humor and a refreshing dose of reality from two guys who know how to grow firms.

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The Future of the Marketing Organization is Fractional with Casey Stanton

What happens to marketing when AI can do much of the work? Casey Stanton joins Jeff and Jason to explore a future built around leaner teams, stronger CMOs, better judgmen

Sep 25
49 min

Building a Leaner, Smarter Marketing Organization for the AI Era with Bri Jones

How do you build a marketing team for the AI era? Stitch VP of Marketing Bri Jones shares how a lean team, business context, generalists, and smart AI investments are res

Sep 11
40 min

The Future of the Marketing Organization: What Should Firms Build Now?

What should the marketing organization of 2030 look like? Jeff and Jason launch a research series exploring how AI, talent, client experience, and strategy will reshape m

Aug 28
44 min

Why Every Professional Services Firm Needs a Better Story with Stephen Steers

Why do some firms stand out while others blend into the crowd? Stephen Steers joins us to explore how storytelling builds trust, differentiates firms, and drives business

Aug 14
44 min

Selling Belief with Mat Zucker from Prophet

In an AI-driven world, expertise alone isn’t enough. Jeff, Jason, and Mat Zucker explore why professional services firms must move beyond trust to build buyer belief and

Jul 31
38 min

Demystifying Case Studies: Why Most Firms Get Them Wrong

Most professional services case studies fail to influence buyers. Jeff and Jason explore the biggest myths and explain how to create stories that build trust, reinforce p

Jul 17
39 min

Shifting to Value-Based Pricing the Right Way with Lori Williams and Kirsten Prost

Can professional services firms move beyond time-and-materials pricing? Jeff, Jason, and guests Lori Williams and Kirsten Prost discuss what it takes to successfully tran

Jul 6

How Should Professional Services Firms Invest Their Marketing Budget?

How much should a professional services firm spend on marketing? The answer isn’t a benchmark. Jeff and Jason explore how growth goals, firm maturity, and strategy should

Jun 19
45 min

Are Personal Brands Killing Firm Brands?

Are personal brands helping or hurting professional services firms? We explore how firms can balance expert visibility with long-term brand equity and growth. The post A

Jun 5
32 min

Identifying and Developing Your Next Experts

How do firms survive beyond the founder? Jeff and Jason discuss how to identify, develop, and scale the next generation of visible experts and thought leaders. The post

May 22
44 min

Distinct Points of View: What the Best Firms Get Right

What separates firms that win from those that blend in? A distinct point of view. We break down how leading firms use it to shape markets, command premium value, and driv

May 8
43 min

Why Some Professional Services Firms Scale—and Others Don’t

What separates firms that scale from those that simply grow? We explore focus, insight, and the structural decisions required to build a scalable professional services fi

Apr 25
42 min

Why Most Professional Services Firms Don’t Scale

Most firms grow by adding people. Few truly scale. We break down the difference and why your business model—not your ambition—determines whether scale is possible. The p

Apr 13
28 min

Navigating the “Where to Play” Paradox: How Firms Decide Where to Grow Next

How should professional services firms decide where to expand next? This episode explores the “where to play” paradox and the strategic criteria leaders must evaluate bef

Mar 13
33 min

From Thought Leadership to Commercial Insight: How to Scale What You Know with Matt Dixon

What separates thought leadership from revenue-generating insight? Matt Dixon explains how to build and scale commercial insight in professional services. The post From

Feb 20
48 min

Seven Strategic Shifts Professional Services Leaders Can’t Ignore in the AI Era

Seven clear-eyed predictions on how AI is reshaping professional services—and what firm leaders need to do now to protect relevance, reputation, and growth. The post Sev

Jan 23
42 min

A Peek Inside Accenture’s Reinvention Research with Francis Hintermann

AI isn’t just another technology wave. Francis Hintermann, Global Managing Director of Accenture Research, joins us to explain why “Reinvention”—not digital transformatio

Jan 9
34 min

The Most Overrated Marketing Metrics, And What You Should Measure Instead

Most firms track the wrong marketing metrics. Jeff and Jason break down what’s overrated, what actually drives growth, and how CEOs should rethink measurement. The post

Dec 19 2025
46 min

Resurgence of Media Relations in the AI Era with Offleash PR

As AI changes how buyers find and trust firms, Robin Bulanti and Kelly Indrieri from Offleash PR explain why media relations is once again a critical driver of visibility

Dec 5 2025
38 min

The Winning Elements of Distinct and Valuable Thought Leadership

Jeff and Jason unpack what separates outstanding thought leadership from content—and how to create ideas that shape markets, not just conversations. The post The Winning

Nov 14 2025
44 min

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