Family Law Growth Podcast

The Review Strategy That Turns Clients Into Your Best Marketing

John Cannon grew Cannon & Associates from a rented office to a firm on pace for over $7 million this year, and he's giving away the playbook. In this episode he breaks do

How to Actually Land High-Net-Worth Divorce Cases

Every firm says they want high-net-worth clients, but is that actually the right client for your business? Elliot and Erik break down how to find your firm's real best cl

The $3M to $12M Playbook: Scaling a Family Law Firm With Rob Leitner

In this episode, Elliot sits down with Rob Leitner, chief of staff at Anderson Dodson/New Leaf Family Law and a fractional CEO who has advised roughly 60 law firms across

How to Diagnose What's Actually Killing Your Case Flow

Most law firms think their growth problem is a leads problem. Elliot and Erik break down why that's often wrong, and how to actually diagnose what's stalling your case fl

The Exit Playbook: How to Build, Value, and Sell Your Family Law Firm With Victoria Collier

In this episode, Elliot sits down with Victoria Collier, founder of Quid Pro Quo Law, to demystify one of the most misunderstood topics in the legal industry — selling yo

The Hidden Billing Problem Costing Your Firm Six Figures a Year

Most family law firm owners know their attorneys are not billing enough. What they do not know is why, and it has nothing to do with laziness. Elliot sits down with Molly

How to Generate More Leads & Sales in the Next 24 Hours with AI

AI is everywhere, but most of what you're hearing is noise. In this episode, Empirical360 co-founders, Elliot and Erik cut through the hype and share exactly how they're

The $0 to 8-Figure Experiment: Building a Family Law Firm W/ No Referrals, No Network & No Playbook

Christopher Anderson co-founded New Leaf Family in Colorado in January 2021, growing it to 52+ people and 17 lawyers in under 5 years — built on a few big ideas: eliminat

From a Laptop & 17 Clients to $2.5M: Building Tampa's Fastest Growing Divorce Firm

In this episode, Elliot sits down with Attorney Robert Angstadt, managing partner at TampaDivorce.com, who grew his firm from a laptop, 17 clients, and $7,000 in the bank

Building a Family Law Firm to $20M Step-By-Step

In this episode, Empirical360 co-founders Elliot and Erik break down the tale of four law firms — what marketing and sales should look like at every stage of growth from

From Abuse Survivor to $6.5M Firm Owner

Heather O'Connor went from surviving an abusive marriage to building a $6.5M high-conflict family law firm with 12 attorneys. In this episode, she shares how her personal

Brutal Truths That Are Holding Family Law Firms Back

Empirical360 co-founders, Elliot and Erik hold nothing back in this Fun with Founders segment. They break down why copying personal injury intake systems is killing your

How Family Law Firms Can Use Non-Attorney Sales People

Can a non-attorney really close a $10,000 family law retainer—without the client ever speaking to a lawyer first? Allyson Swanson does it every day. In this episode, th

The Benchmark Episode: A Reality Check for Your Family Law Firm

Most family law firms operate without ever knowing whether their marketing and sales efforts are actually working. In this episode of the Family Law Growth Podcast, Ellio

Stop Being the Bottleneck: How to Breakthrough Your Revenue Ceiling

Hannah Hembree Bell shares the unfiltered truth about growing Hembree Bell Law Firm from a $10,000 loan to a 50-person team. Learn how she hired non-attorney salespeople,

Secret Shopping Family Law Firms: Why Your Intake Is Killing Your Growth

Empirical360 founders, Elliot and Erik secretly call family law firms to expose how broken intake processes are costing firms millions. Through live calls, they reveal th

Zero to $20M in 4.5 Years: The Family Law Firm Blueprint

Mark Reel built Inc.'s fastest-growing law firm in America in just 4.5 years—from his one-bedroom apartment to a $20M run rate with 85 employees. In this episode, Mark s

Systems & Sales for Family Law Success with Angela Jones

In this insightful episode, Angela Jones, founder of Brighter Day Law, shares her journey scaling not one, but two successful family law firms across Colorado and Tenness

Scaling to Eight Figures With Bob Tharp of Meriwether & Tharp

In this episode of the Family Law Growth Podcast, Bob Tharp, co-founder of Meriwether & Tharp—a family law firm in Georgia with over 20 years of experience and multiple l

From Solo to Multi 7-Figures

In this first-ever episode, we sit down with Christy A. Zlatkus, CEO and founding attorney of Z Family Law—a powerhouse family law and estate planning firm in the D.C. ar