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The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy

by Curt Widhalm, LMFT and Katie Vernoy, LMFT

The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide: Where Therapists Live, Breathe, and Practice as Human Beings It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when clinicians must develop a personal brand to market their private practices, and are connecting over social media, engaging in social activism, pushing back against mental health stigma, and facing a whole new style of entrepreneurship. To support you as a whole person, a business owner, and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.

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Sep 14
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The Clinical Depth Principle: Why Therapy Cannot Be Reduced to Tools, Hacks, and Sound Bites

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Sep 7
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Burnout Before Licensure: Why Prelicensed Therapist Exhaustion Is a Supervision Problem, Not a Time Management Problem

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Aug 31
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You Can't Pizza Party Your Way Out of Burnout: Moral Injury, Compassion Fatigue, and Treating Healthcare Workers - An Interview with Kimberly Johnson, PhD, LMHCD, and Lucy Li, MD

You Can't Pizza Party Your Way Out of Burnout: Moral Injury, Compassion Fatigue, and Treating Healthcare Workers - An Interview with Kimberly Johnson, PhD, LMHCD, and Luc

Aug 27
43 min

Rest By Force or By Choice: Burnout, Self-Care, and Sustainable Practice for Therapists - An Interview with Cecily Moore, PhD

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Aug 24
41 min

Suffering Is Collective, and So Is Healing: Belonging, Ritual, and Meaning in Uncertain Times - An Interview with Suzan Song, MD

Suffering Is Collective, and So Is Healing: Belonging, Ritual, and Meaning in Uncertain Times - An Interview with Suzan Song, MD Suzan Song, MD, psychiatrist and medical

Aug 17
40 min

Sustainability Is a Fundamental Responsibility: Therapist Burnout, Moral Injury, and the Systems We Practice Within

Sustainability Is a Fundamental Responsibility: Therapist Burnout, Moral Injury, and the Systems We Practice Within Therapist burnout, sustainability, and moral injury,

Aug 10
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What It Means to Be a Modern Therapist: The Principles That Guide Our Work

What It Means to Be a Modern Therapist: The Principles That Guide Our Work Curt Widhalm, LMFT, and Katie Vernoy, LMFT, on the principles that define a sustainable, ethic

Aug 3
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Are We Really Better at Empathy Than the Bots? What the Research Says About AI in Therapy

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Jul 27
49 min

How AI Tools for Therapists Are Built: Trust, Data Privacy, and Choosing What to Adopt - An Interview with Ian Knox and Megan Toomey of SimplePractice

How AI Tools for Therapists Are Built: Trust, Data Privacy, and Choosing What to Adopt - An Interview with Ian Knox and Megan Toomey Ian Knox and Megan Toomey of SimpleP

Jul 23
41 min

When Clients Bring AI to Therapy: Working with ChatGPT, Sycophancy, and the New Third Wheel in the Room

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Jul 20
40 min

Why AI Mental Health Chatbots Fail When It Matters Most: The Hidden Vulnerabilities Stress-Testing Reveals – An Interview with Shirali and Arul Nigam of Circuit Breaker Labs

Why AI Mental Health Chatbots Fail When It Matters Most: The Hidden Vulnerabilities Stress-Testing Reveals - An Interview with Shirali and Arul Nigam of Circuit Breaker L

Jul 13
47 min

AI Ethics Codes for Therapists: What CAMFT, APA, NASW, and AAMFT Now Require

AI Ethics Codes for Therapists: What CAMFT, APA, NASW, and AAMFT Now Require How the CAMFT, APA, NASW, and AAMFT ethics codes now regulate AI in therapy: a CE podcourse

Jul 6
1 h 10 min

Supporting Conversion Therapy Survivors After Chiles v. Salazar: SOGIECE, Clinical Care, and Community Response – An Interview with Samuel Nieves

Supporting Conversion Therapy Survivors After Chiles v. Salazar: SOGIECE, Clinical Care, and Community Response - An Interview with Samuel Nieves Samuel Nieves of the Co

Jun 29
47 min

Should Conversion Therapy Be Protected Speech? What Chiles v. Salazar Means for Conversion Therapy Bans and the Future of the Profession

Should Conversion Therapy Be Protected Speech? What Chiles v. Salazar Means for Conversion Therapy Bans and the Future of the Profession In Chiles v. Salazar, the Sup

Jun 22
41 min

Good Enough, Safe Enough: Affirming LGBTQ+ Clients When You're Not a Specialist

Good Enough, Safe Enough: Affirming LGBTQ+ Clients When You're Not a Specialist Affirming LGBTQ+ clients when you are not a specialist: Curt Widhalm, LMFT, and Katie Ver

Jun 15
40 min

Allyship Is Awkward: How Therapists Can Keep Showing Up Anyway

Allyship Is Awkward: How Therapists Can Keep Showing Up Anyway What if the awkwardness of ally work is not a sign you are doing it wrong, but the actual work? Curt Widh

Jun 8
45 min

The Seven Stages of Queer Love: Therapy with Queer Couples, Queer Sex, and the Developmental Model - An Interview with Tom Bruett, LMFT

The Seven Stages of Queer Love: Therapy with Queer Couples, Queer Sex, and the Developmental Model - An Interview with Tom Bruett, LMFT Tom Bruett, LMFT on the seven sta

Jun 1
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#45
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#80 ▼ 7 Alternative Health US

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Thank you for the great podcast! It has been vital to my learning after graduate school. I appreciate you sharing real world experiences and advocacy work for therapists to earn a living wage and take care of themselves. Love the banter and laughing and sense of humor too!

Beach Commute is vital! · Dec 2024

In a sea of spaces that place talking points and agendas over people and impact, Curt and Katie got it right about the antisemitism and anti-Palestinian experiences of therapists in these communities. They covered both lived experiences so well, and showed that one does not erase or obscure the other. Well, done. Truly.

KiwiWithUmbrella · Sep 2024

I have been listening to The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide for a few years since I started my small practice. I have generally found their podcasts to be insightful, educational, and a great free resource. I am surprised by some of the negative reviews. I will say that most PP therapists will find this podcast interesting and educational. I have enjoyed about 95% of all the podcasts I’ve listened to. I have found a couple unhelpful but that is just me. I really appreciate the topics covered here and would recommend this podcast to all of my therapist friends!

Smfish · Jul 2024

As a relatively new therapist, I’ve learned so much from this show. I appreciate how open-ended Curt and Katie are and how they touch on important modern topics for all mental health professionals. Their vulnerability and humor add to every conversation. I look forward to new episodes!

Tara Mont · Jun 2024

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