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Management · Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford

The Experimental Leader

by Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford

Are you a business owner, executive, leader, team leader, aspiring future leader, leadership junkie, a scientist, a design thinker, or simply the leader of your own life? If you are, then you are a leader, and as such, you should be experimenting! Welcome to The Experimental Leader, a podcast where we tackle the ways leaders are experimenting in their own work. Hosted by Melanie Parish and Dr. Mel Rutherford, we dive into the most interesting questions about leaders and get into real-life conversations about how people might be experimenting with their leadership. What they are trying? How they are leading and managing their flow of work and throughput? How are they managing bottlenecks, mission, vision, strategic, operational, and tactical intents? How do they organize experiments? How do they succeed? How do they fail? How do they collect data? The loneliness of leadership can be overwhelming, especially when a leader gets promoted and doesn’t have a roadmap for how to lead. They might feel like they are supposed to have the answers, and yet they have to figure out what that really means. The hardest part can be not having anyone to talk to about their leadership journey. Fear not. Let Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford be your guide to becoming the leader you were meant to be – an experimental leader! A public speaker, consultant, workshop leader, author, and Master Certified Coach through the International Coach Federation, from whom she received the Prism Award, Melanie is an expert in problem-solving, constraints management, operations, strategic hiring, and brand development. She has consulted and coached organizations ranging from a Fortune 50 company to IT start-ups receiving their first round of funding. Her individual clients include those in FAANG and other top global IT companies. Melanie is a Certified Professional Coactive Coach and, Organization and Relationship Systems Certified Coach, and a Theory of Constraints Certified Jonah. As an author, educator, and creator of The Experimental Leader program, Melanie shows people new ways of thinking about their leadership, informed by her understanding of the fast-paced ride of technology innovation. A professor in the Department of Psychology, Neuroscience and Behaviour, and Canada Research Chair in Social Perception. Dr. Mel Rutherford graduated from Yale University and earned a Ph.D. in Psychology with an emphasis in Human Development from the University of California at Santa Barbara. A Fulbright Fellowship allowed Dr. Rutherford to study and collaborate with the well-known Simon Baron-Cohen in Cambridge, England. Dr. Rutherford also worked with Bruce Pennington and Sally Rogers at the University of Denver as a postdoctoral fellow. He now heads a dynamic research laboratory at McMaster University. Dr. Rutherford is well-known for research in the field of psychology and has been interviewed and quoted in The Globe and Mail, The London Times, The Chicago Times, CBC Radio, Quirks and Quarks, and The Discovery Channel, as well as many AP newspapers around the world. Get rid of the fear and doubt, and shift your leadership into something that works better. Every week, learn from top leaders about how they’re experimenting, how they’re leading, and how they’re doing the things that they do. Join us here on The Experimental Leader and step into leadership with confidence and the knowledge to start leading the experiment today!

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Latest episodes

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Rethinking Age in the Workplace with Dan Pontefract

What if one of the biggest untapped resources in today’s workplace isn’t technology, but experience? In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Melanie Parish and Mel R

Sep 8
29 min

Skill Up: Leadership at the Dinner Table

Leadership doesn’t stop when the meeting ends. Sometimes, it shows up around the dinner table. In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Melanie Parish and Dr. Mel Rut

Sep 4
14 min

Traps and Tricks: Turning Employee Exits into Cultural Wins

What happens to your organizational culture when a valued employee leaves? In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford explore one of t

Aug 27
5 min

Digital Detox & Thoughtload with Liane Davey

What if feeling overwhelmed isn’t really about your workload but your thought load? In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford sit dow

Aug 11
34 min

Skill Up: Hiring Beyond Your Bias

Are you hiring people who truly fit the role or simply people who feel familiar? In this episode of The Experimental Leader Podcast, Mel Rutherford and Melanie Parish ex

Aug 7
10 min

Traps and Tricks: Vision vs. Volume

What happens when everything is a priority? In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford explore one of the most common leadership traps

Jul 30
10 min

The Hidden Cost of Unclear Expectations with Georgia Thomas

Unclear expectations can quietly undermine even the strongest teams. Miscommunication, frustration, reduced accountability, and stalled growth often stem from one overloo

Jul 14
15 min

Traps and Tricks: From Breakdown to Breakthrough

What if your biggest leadership challenge becomes your greatest opportunity? In this episode of The Experimental Leader Podcast, Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford explor

Jun 30
19 min

Leading on the Glass Cliff with Dr. Mel Rutherford, PCC

In this episode of The Experimental Leader Podcast, Melanie Parish speaks with Dr. Mel Rutherford about leading through crisis, identity, and organizational transformatio

Jun 16
17 min

Traps and Tricks: Criticism & Emotions

In this episode of Traps and Tricks, Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford explore two leadership challenges that often go hand in hand: criticism and emotions. Why do leade

Jun 4
19 min

Skill Up: Developing People

Welcome to Skill Up, the newest segment of The Experimental Leader Podcast, where Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford break down practical leadership skills that help leade

May 27
13 min

Decoding Human Performance with Jacob Chase

In this episode of The Experimental Leader Podcast, Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford are joined by Jacob Chase, CEO of Infin, for a strategic exploration of leadership,

May 20
24 min

From HR to Human-Centered Leadership with Dr. Roz

What makes people truly engaged at work? In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Dr. Roz Cohen joins the conversation to explore the power of connection, belonging, a

Apr 29
19 min

Leading Without Burnout with Michelle Troseth & Dr. Tracy Christopherson

Burnout is not the cost of leadership. It is a signal. In this episode of The Experimental Leader, we explore a more sustainable way to lead by moving beyond either or t

Mar 31
21 min

Trauma-Informed Leadership with Dr. L. Carol Scott

In this episode of The Experimental Leader, the show explores a trauma-sensitive perspective on leadership, examining how early relational experiences shape executive beh

Feb 28
27 min

Leading Through Collective Wisdom with Paulo Gregory

Start 2026 with a fresh take on leadership. In this episode of The Experimental Leader, Mel Rutherford and Melanie Parish are joined by designer and community builder Pa

Jan 27
33 min

Seasonal Leadership Experiments: Efficiency, Culture, and Connection

This episode dives into how leaders can use experimentation to navigate the intensity of the December season with more clarity, efficiency, and humanity. The conversation

Dec 15 2025
16 min

Leading in Context: Dr. Torben Noerby on Adaptive Leadership

In this episode, Dr. Torben Noerby—CEO of People & Performance, author of The Contextual Leader, and creator of the Contextual Leadership AI Bot (CLAI)—explores how leade

Oct 16 2025
28 min

Reputation, Resilience, and New Leaders with Charlotte Otter

In this month’s episode of The Experimental Leader Podcast, we explore what it takes to build leadership that lasts. The conversation covers the essentials of self-leader

Sep 17 2025
25 min

Transcending Limits: Leadership, Identity, and Advocacy in Uniform with Col. Bree Fram

In this episode of The Experimental Leader podcast, hosts Melanie Parrish and Mel Rutherford speak with Col. Bree Fram, one of the highest-ranking out transgender officer

Aug 12 2025
28 min

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What listeners say

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I had the pleasure of being a guest on Melanie's podcast and was truly impressed by her unique perspective on leadership, which I had already admired in her book. Melanie's authenticity and care for every business relationship she creates are evident in every episode. Together, we experimented with exploring the power of narratives in leadership, which was a fascinating and enriching experience. We are so lucky to have this podcast as a resource to reinvent who we are as leaders. Highly recommended!

Guillaume Wiatr · Aug 2024

It was extremely refreshing to communicate about experimental approaches to leadership! It is inevitable that we must take necessary risks, learn from mistakes and experiment our way into growing as leaders. Melanie makes this journey psychologically safe by framing it as experimental. Thanks for holding the space for us to explore, learn and grow together!

Scrappy Kimberly · Sep 2022

Melanie brings in guests that have great insights, asks them thoughtful questions, and gets to practical ideas quickly. Love the readily accessible leadership ideas.

markjc27 · May 2022

Insightful, easy to listen to, and always educational. I love this podcast and always get a few nuggets of gold. Love it

MA2HI2FL · Oct 2020

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