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It Gets Late Early

by Maureen Wiley Clough

Have you ever looked around at work and realized you might be one of the oldest people in the room—and you’re not even 40 yet? It Gets Late Early is a show about what’s really happening to experienced workers as the rules of work change. We dig into layoffs dressed up as AI strategy, side hustles and portfolio careers, the quiet rise of workplace ageism, and the (sometimes harsh) reality of building a career in midlife and beyond. We connect the dots between corporate decisions, economic forces, and the real lives of people navigating a changing world of work to help make sense of it all…because the career playbook we all followed was for a game no one can win anymore. You’ll hear honest conversations, expert insights, and practical advice for people trying to figure out what comes next—all wrapped up in a healthy dose of dark humor. Because sometimes you have to laugh so you don’t cry. Hosted by Maureen Wiley Clough—corporate dropout and ex-journalist who won’t quit telling the truth about work.

Latest episodes

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I Created a Fake Perfect Job Candidate. Here's What Happened.

What happens when you create the “perfect” job candidate and send her into today’s job market? Apparently, not much. Emily Durham, better known as Emily the Recruiter, d

Aug 26
51 min

We're Working Ourselves to Death (And Calling It Success)

A worker collapses on a warehouse floor. The conveyor belts keep moving. No one is allowed to help. The story sounds unbelievable until you realize it's not an isolated i

Jun 9
14 min

$600M in Damages. One Worker. A System That Created Both.

On April 7th, at 12:30 a.m. in a massive warehouse in Ontario, California, a worker lights pallets on fire. The result? $500–$600 million in damages and a reflection of a

May 26
14 min

The US Tracks Your Money Anywhere on Earth. It Just Won't Say How Many Americans Left

The American career stability crisis is real, and it’s not a coincidence. We’re seeing a massive shift in how employers view workers, and it’s creating a talent drain tha

Apr 10
11 min

The AI Cover-up: How Layoffs Hide the Rise of the Ghost Workforce

We’ve seen companies laying off employees under the guise of automation. But here’s the catch: They’re still hiring, just not you–not as an employee anyway. What do I mea

Mar 24
11 min

The AI Con: How Tech Giants Are Using Layoffs to Reset the Job Market

You may have seen companies like Pinterest and Amazon cutting thousands of jobs in the name of "AI transformation." But here's the catch: these layoffs are a calculated r

Mar 11
14 min

How to Build Something New After 40 (Even When It Feels "Too Late")

"It's too late for me." I had this worry, but I finally hit publish on my first podcast episode at 40. I thought I'd missed the boat. Everyone else had already started,

Dec 16 2025
52 min

Tech Layoffs, Ageism & AI: Is a Tech Career Still Worth It?

Tech isn’t just in a downturn. It’s in the midst of a full-blown identity crisis. As layoffs, ageism, and AI reshape the workforce overnight, Brian Pulliam joins me to br

Nov 26 2025
54 min

I Paid $48K for Health Insurance and Still Owed $10K—So I Built a Solution

With mass layoffs hitting tech, media, and corporate America, more professionals over 40 are being forced into freelance work, consulting, and solopreneur life—whether th

Nov 13 2025
1 h 14 min

AI Is Teaching Us to Hate Our Own Faces - Former Google Employee Turned Artist Exposes the Truth

Ever wondered why AI thinks you need to look younger? In this episode, Gretchen Andrew, a former Google employee turned artist, exposes the disturbing truth about how bea

Oct 28 2025
54 min

The Hoodie Myth Is Dead: Why the Best Tech Founders Are Over 40

What if everything you thought you knew about startup success was wrong? In today’s episode of It Gets Late Early, I’m breaking down the myth that young, hoodie-wearing e

Oct 14 2025
14 min

The $259B Problem Hiding in Your Meetings — and How to Solve It

Meetings. Ugh. We’ve all been there, right? And the price tag is bigger than most people realize. We estimate that the cost to organizations of these unproductive meeting

Sep 30 2025
42 min

20% Fake Jobs. 31% Never Hear Back. What Are Companies Doing?

Ever applied, interviewed, and…silence? You’re not alone. In this episode, we crack open the hiring black box: the rise of ghost jobs (roles that never close or never exi

Sep 16 2025
40 min

70% of the Money. Zero Attention — or Employees. What Are Brands Thinking?

Marketers love chasing Gen Z. But here’s the trillions-of-dollars blind spot: Gen X and Boomers control nearly 70% of U.S. disposable income and outspend younger generat

Sep 2 2025
48 min

The 10% Rule: Why a Little More Vulnerability Can Change Everything With Will Greenblatt

Why is it terrifying to present to just four people? According to Will Greenblatt, it's because our brains still think the tribe might "club us over the head" if they don

Aug 19 2025
50 min

Fired and Diagnosed With Cancer: How Daniel Incandela Rebuilt His Life

Losing a job is never easy, but what if it led to a more fulfilling path? Daniel Incandela, former CMO, opens up about the painful yet transformative experience of being

Aug 5 2025
39 min

What No One Tells You About Personal Branding at Work With Danielle Hughes

Let’s face it, whether you're looking for a new job, trying to stand out in your current role, or considering a career pivot, building a personality brand is a real game-

Jul 22 2025
39 min

The AI Industry Is Lying to You — And This Founder’s Calling It Out at Age 66

Is AI living up to the hype, or is it just another overblown bubble that’s gonna pop? In this episode, Stephen Klein, a 66-year-old AI founder who is challenging the stat

Jul 8 2025
1 h 07 min

Kelly Stonelake Tried to Protect Kids at Meta. They Fired Her Instead

Have you ever felt trapped in a system that’s supposed to empower you but instead chips away at your well-being? In today’s episode, I’m sitting down with Kelly Stonelake

Jun 24 2025
1 h 13 min

How to Fix Your Dumpster Fire Interview Process With Lorna Erickson and Victoria Gates

Let’s get real: hiring today is a mess. I’ve been there both as a candidate and as the interviewer who wasn’t properly trained. So, when I discovered Lorna Erickson and V

Jun 10 2025
49 min

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