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The Gateway: Teal Swan

by Gizmodo

The Gateway is a six-part series about Teal Swan, a new brand of spiritual guru, who draws in followers with her hypnotic self-help YouTube videos aimed at people who are struggling with depression and suicidal thoughts. Some followers move to Teal’s healing center, a spiritual startup where they produce content and manage social media accounts. Teal insists her therapy saves lives, but her critics say Teal’s death-focused dogma is dangerous. Gizmodo reporter Jennings Brown traveled to rural Utah and to the forests of Costa Rica, with extensive access to Teal and her inner circle, to understand Teal's teachings and investigate the deaths of some of her followers.

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Part 6: Shadows

After months of reporting, Jennings goes to Utah for one final interview with Teal. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jul 4 2018
39 min

Part 5: Memories

A look back at a strange chapter of American history known as the Satanic Panic—and how it connects to Teal.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/a

Jun 27 2018
46 min

Part 4: Tribe

In this exploration of Teal’s online empire, we’ll meet some of the people whose lives have changed because of her teachings. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podc

Jun 20 2018
52 min

Part 3: Philia

Jennings meets Teal at her retreat center in Costa Rica. He spends a week there, observing her therapy methods and getting to know some of the people who leave their live

Jun 13 2018
44 min

Part 2: Origins

Jennings travels to Utah, where Teal grew up and began her spiritual career. He learns more about the upbringing that shaped her teachings on suicide, and he meets the pe

Jun 6 2018
40 min

Part 1: Catalyst

In April 2017 YouTube recommended reporter Jennings Brown watch a self-help video from Teal Swan, a spiritual guru with a global online following. He’d spend the next yea

May 30 2018
43 min

Introducing The Gateway

Follow Gizmodo reporter Jennings Brown as he investigates an internet spiritual guru, named Teal Swan, and the deaths of some of her followers. The Gateway premieres on M

May 21 2018
5 min

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The podcast was good and it did present a fair and balanced approach to the methods of Teal Swan. However, I think it could have greatly benefited greatly from expert analysis and research. For instance, throughout the podcast I thought of Dr. Elizabeth Loftus, who is a leading expert on memory research. In particular, I thought of her research on false memories. She has done studies that demonstrate how false memories can be planted within our minds. Her research leaves you somewhat disturbed because it illustrates that it doesn’t take any magic or master manipulation to implant a false memory; it merely takes a suggestion. Aside for this specific example, I just felt as though the podcast could have really benefitted from interviewing psychologists, experts on suicide, other gurus/spiritual leaders, etc. or referencing research on the topics discussed. I probably approach information differently because I am a professor of philosophy. But I believe it is difficult to truly understand a topic in isolation and that approaching a topic critically involves analyzing the context. While context was given regarding how Teal Swan became a spiritual leader and the way in which her methods manifested, I felt as though the podcast failed to provide the larger context in which Teal Swan’s methods and beliefs are situated (e.g., trauma, memory, suicide, spirituality, psychosomatic therapy, depression whether existential or clinical, etc.) and what experts already know on such topics. It should be noted that I am only on episode four.

LauraNicoleMc · Dec 2023

I was impressed teal let Jennings get this close to her. I liked his style of reporting, I didn't feel like he was talking to me like a child like some other podcasts seem to do. I liked that it brought all involved parties and it gave you every angle available.

Meaghan, not a lawyer · Aug 2023

I enjoyed this podcast, as I do many investigative podcasts. That said, something happened towards the end where it seems as though the reporter/host got triggered, possibly from the memory he had come up about being put in the hamper by his cousin, and the whole vibe changed. The last two episodes you can hear how activated he is, and he’s no longer viewing things in any kind of objective way. I know that reporters aren’t required to remain impartial, but in his attempt to make Teal Swan look like a dangerous cult leader he only succeeds at making himself look like a scared reactive mess.

T33NW00F · Jul 2023

Felt like everyone in this podcast got a fair shake–presenting the facts and yet not being overly sympathetic or moralizing. Was fascinated to the end.

Carhopeley · Jun 2023

He sounds enamored by Teal Swan and in an interview with “Sounds like a Cult” podcast actually mentions how his producer had to toss a large part of an interview with Teal Swan because she got in his head. Can definitely tell that happened throughout this podcast. Are you exposing her or promoting her? Hard to tell.

fuel&fire · Jul 2022

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