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Raven 23: Presumption of Guilt

by Think Again

How did four highly decorated American soldiers become prisoners of war in their own country? This series re-examines the US Department of Justice’s controversial prosecution following a gun battle in Baghdad between Iraqi insurgents and military contractors. Why did the DOJ hold multiple trials for over a decade? Was the DOJ seeking justice? Or playing politics?

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Having friends that worked for Blackwater, I am already well aware of this incident. However the detail and presentation, including the backstories and histories of the men are very interesting and compelling. Job well done doesn’t even begin to describe how well this is presented. Amazing work by everyone involved. It’s extremely sad and pathetic, how horrible the mainstream media in this country has become and the government piling on these American hero’s, is the saddest tale of all. I only wish this were a series, illuminating the failures of our legal system. How people can give this anything less than five stars, is astounding and I doubt they ever took the time to listen.

Happy with this app guy · Mar 2023

Great podcast. The episodes seem long, but man 4-5 hours goes by quick when listening. The only podcast I’ll actually download to listen to when on a flight (flight goes quick 😁). Keep em coming.

5PointFiveSix · Aug 2021

I’ve looked up to Shawn the moment I discovered him on YouTube and the content he puts out is second to none, from the education regarding firearms to the in depth interviews with the best guests ever. I couldn’t recommended this podcast enough. RUN9mm

RUN9mm · Aug 2021

I was a September 11, 2001 survivor and former Secret Service Special Agent. Blackwater was a way for me to do MORE than I was capable of doing in the USSS. This Raven 23 event rattled my belief in Justice. This is a great podcast and Thank you for sharing the story!

TheRutherfords · Jan 2020

A truly disgusting attempt to whitewash a tale of massacre into ‘the system’ being out to get ‘heroes.’ If you find this podcast anywhere near persuasive I urge you to actually look up the Nisour Square Massacre. Yes, massacre. Although throughout in the show she calls it the Nisour Square “Incident” it is both literally and nominatively a massacre in which these men killed 17 civilians, including children.

schnitzlboy · Dec 2019

So I got forwarded this podcast by a friend, but it seems to me that this podcast is deliberately misrepresenting and neglecting the facts of the events. For example, while we want to support the troops (though let’s be honest these men are mercenaries who for one reason or another didn’t join the military) the initial account of the events was written not by the results of an initial official investigation but by another black water mercenary within hours after the event. Additionally, military soldiers gave much different accounts then the mercenaries involved. This podcast feels less investigative and more a deliberate attempt at whitewashing.

Macarondream · Dec 2019

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