Mind Games

Interesting podcast and worth the listen! However, it also made me want to scream in frustration at times! So many of the concepts and principles of NLP are NOT original to it. In the interview with Bandler, he literally quoted a fundamental tenet of CBT (the way we think about things affects the way we feel and what we do). He made the erroneous claim that all therapies share the same flaw - trying to understand the “why” of someone’s problem. That’s not true. CBT is all about figuring out “how to put out the fire” so to speak - not over analyzing what caused it. Empathy and building rapport are critical components of establishing a therapeutic relationship and promoting change. NLP did not invent that and should not get credit for it. To say someone is using NLP when they are showing empathy and trying to build rapport is ludicrous. As a licensed psychologist and therapist, it made me cringe every time an NLP promoter talked about these things like they were revolutionary ideas when they’ve been a part of evidence based practice for decades

This podcast is phenomenal. Zoe and Alice put an enormous amount of time and effort into researching the subject. I can honestly say that they take an accurate and fair-minded approach to NLP—certainly for the part of the story that I’m most familiar with. (I was part of the training group where Bandler and Grinder first introduced NLP. I also published the first (admittedly informal) literature review of the subject, although eventually, as I trained as a social scientist, I lost interest in NLP.) I could go on at length about the podcast, but suffice it to say that I learned a lot and highly recommend it.

I fully support podcasts getting paid (get your bag!), but the ad breaks are just too long. Space them out a bit and this would easily be a five-star binge listen!

This pod is astonishingly incisive and brilliantly researched. It’s been a long time since a pod was “appointment listening” when a new episode comes out. Deeply fascinating.

I am in shock that these hosts platformed Nancy Salzman, a criminal who participated in a sex-trafficking cult, who spent time in prison for racketeering, and subjected NXIVM members to unethical and abusive psychological coercion. In the podcast, Nancy took zero accountability for the harm she caused in NXIVM, and the hosts just… took her at her word. What on earth? This is really dangerous stuff that has led to a lot of harm - especially to women - and the hosts do not take a harsh enough stance towards it. Please seek out other resources to learn about NLP.

This came up randomly in my feed. First 90 seconds I recognized the story and I thought, surely they are not going to unapologetically have NANCY SALZMAN on a podcast and have her talk about her pseudo science that traumatized and abused women with zero caution, warning, or footnotes. I am very sorry, but this woman does not just get a platform without HEAVY disclaimers. And has she ever done anything at all to rectify the harm she has done? Point me to that and then I might come back, because I would like to listen to other episodes, but you can’t just have a convicted offender on episode one, not explain why upfront and expect me to keep listening.