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Grit & Grain Podcast

by Matthew, Bethany, and Ron

Craft beer sales and brand manager — Matt McLaren, professional brewer and line cleaner — Bethany Carlsen, and bottle shop owner and operator — Ron Swarner explore and celebrate the craft beer industry, community, and history in Tacoma, Washington, and surrounding Pacific Northwest region.

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Episode 210: Author and Longtime Advocate of Beer Ben Keene

Here comes a special one! This week we are joined by prolific beer journalist, author, beer sales rep, and former editor of Beer Advocate Magazine, Ben Keene. After spen

Oct 16
59 min

Episode 209: Who Needs a Ladder When You have Hops? with Tristan McCoy

It’s time for homebrewing world update!  There are some rumors going around that a few local homebrew supply shops may be nearing their respective finish lines (unless an

Oct 9
52 min

Episode 208: Fresh Hop Check-In

We are rounding the corner to the fresh hop finale of 2026. Some of the year’s best and most anticipated releases are hitting shelves, and Ron just got back from making h

Oct 2
57 min

Episode 207: Grit and Grain and Pages and Pints

We’re keeping it Odd for one more week with local beer-fluencer, event organizer, and bartender, Cecelia Grogan! When she’s not serving up your Odd Otter Brewing pints,

Sep 25
1 h 04 min

Episode 206: Food Prep to Beer Rep with Max Beckstrom

We’re keeping it Tacoma this week with a fresh face to the show and one of the newer faces in the local beer industry. Odd Otter Brewing sales rep/general manager/all-ar

Sep 18
53 min

Episode 205: Let’s Talk About E9

This week’s episode will be a little different than usual.  As many of you may know, this has been a complicated few weeks for our friends at E9 Brewing. Since the reveal

Sep 11
1 h 18 min

Grit And Grain Episode 204: What Month is Oktoberfest?

Its September!  Which means it’s time for Oktoberfest, right?  We’re pretty sure that’s how that works. … Either way, among all the fresh hops and pumpkin ales gracing t

Sep 4
50 min

Grit & Grain Podcast Episode 203: Kyle Larsen Takes the Long Way Home

Kings & Daughters co-founder and brewmaster Kyle Larsen joins Grit & Grain on the eve of his brewery’s fifth-anniversary Tacoma celebration to trace the wonderfully indir

Aug 28
53 min

Episode 202: WA Wild Brewshed Alliance Director Chris Chappell

Washington Wild Brewshed Alliance Director Chris Chappell returns to Grit & Grain to explain what happens when the forests, rivers and public lands that make great beer p

Aug 21
53 min

Grit & Grain Episode 201: Grainmaker 2026

Last weekend, we packed up the cars and made the trek over to Spokane for the amazing Grainmaker Fest — the annual celebration of specialty malt with more than 50 partici

Aug 14
53 min

Grit & Grain Episode 200 Special Edition: Matt and Roger from Georgetown

We made it fam! Two-hundred episodes officially in the book.  We continue our special double-header with Georgetown Brewing Research & Development Brewer Matt Edwards and

Aug 7
58 min

Episode 199: A Georgetown Brewing and Pinks Boots Special

It’s crazy to think we are one episode away from 200! To celebrate the occasion, we got together with The Pink Boots Society and Georgetown Brewing, put together a specia

Jul 31
1 h 03 min

Episode 198: Secret Sunday Episode with Sean Jackson

We are rounding the corner to Episode 200, which is insane! We definitely didn’t want to hit the next milestone without spending a Sunday morning goofing around with our

Jul 24
54 min

Episode 197: It’s Lagerhead Weekend! 

This weekend has some of the best annual events we know of — all happening at once! On that list is the insanely popular Lagerhead Festival at No Boat Brewing in Snoqualm

Jul 17
57 min

Episode 196: All Around the World for the 4th

We’re back, baby! The team took a week off for the holiday and some travel, and we’re pumped to be back on the mic to catch up on what everyone has been doing. Bethany wa

Jul 10
1 h 04 min

Episode 195: Turning the Off-Flavor Industry on Its Head

We know many of our listeners have tried their hand off-flavor tasting.  Whether you’re studying for certification exams or just leveling up your brewing game, off-flavor

Jun 26
1 h 06 min

Episode 194: Washington Brewers Fest 2026

This week, we’re on location at Washington Brewers Fest. Held each year smack dab in the middle of Seattle Center, with dozens of Washington breweries and cideries, local

Jun 19
50 min

Episode 193: Checking In with Logan Brewing

A little over a year ago, we had the fantastic folks behind Burien’s own Logan Brewing on the podcast to celebrate our amazing collab with them and Lander Coffee for Taco

Jun 12
57 min

Episode 192: Firestone Invitational Recap with Melissa Urquhart

The 2026 Firestone Invitational Beerfest was amazing.  Matt, Ron, and Phaedra had all planned to meet up for the festival, but Ron had to rain check this one as he had a

Jun 5
59 min

Episode 191: What’s so Japanese About Rice Lagers?

The World Beer Cup added a “Rice Lager” category for the first time in 2026, and two Northwest breweries promptly earned medals in it — which is pretty amazing. Much like

May 29
59 min

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