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Between Two COO's with Michael Koenig

by Michael Koenig

Between Two COOs is hosted by veteran COO Michael Koenig and brings together Chief Operating Officers, executives, and business leaders to share real insights on operations, leadership, scaling, AI, and execution. Featuring COOs from companies like LVMH, Vodafone, Automattic, Lime, JumpCloud, Grafana Labs, and Cotopaxi, plus top VCs like Brad Feld and Seth Levine. Whether you're a COO, VP of Ops, founder, or aspiring operator — this is the podcast for people who actually run companies. New episodes weekly. betweentwocoos.com | b2coos.com

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The AI Bubble Has a Due Date. It's 2029 | Paul Kedrosky, SK Ventures

Paul Kedrosky of SK Ventures says AI capex is driving up to 70 percent of US GDP growth, and most of it is now borrowed. He walks through the money map, the 2029 maturity

Sep 22
40 min

Lior Eldan, Moburst COO on Reinventing the Marketing Agency Before AI Eats It

Lior Eldan, co-founder and COO of Moburst, has reinvented what his agency sells three times, from app store optimization to AI products. He explains why replacing people

Sep 16
54 min

Joe Yaffe, COO at Cowboy Space, on Whether Data Centers in Space Are Cheaper

Part 2 of 2. Part 1 is here: https://betweentwocoos.com/65 In part 1, Joe Yaffe explained how an orbital data center works. This time, the question is whether it works

Aug 18
36 min

Joe Yaffe (Cowboy Space): From Big Law to Orbit, Part 1 of 2

Part 1 of 2. Part 2 drops later this week. Joe Yaffe had climbed as high as the ladder goes. Fifteen years at Latham & Watkins, then Skadden, managing partner of the P

Aug 11
52 min

Riikka Söderlund, Katana COO, on Why AI Won't Know Your Product Exists

Riikka Söderlund is the chief operating officer at Katana Cloud Inventory, a Finland-based platform that helps small product businesses run inventory, manufacturing, and

Jul 29
45 min

Rick Marini on the Day-One Speech That Turned Grindr Around

Rick Marini, co-founder of Rails and former COO of Grindr, joins Between Two COOs to explain why he would rather be a great COO than a good CEO. He and host Michael Koeni

Jul 21
38 min

Zapier CEO Wade Foster on Why AI Is a People Problem, Not a Tech Problem

Michael Koenig talks with Wade Foster, co-founder and CEO of Zapier, about running the company for 14 years without a CEO safety net and without ever naming a COO. Wade e

Jul 15
50 min

Zulema Quintans, COO of Noda, on Why Your OKRs Don't Get Done

Zulema Quintans runs operations at an energy company, and she has a clear theory about why goals fail. This is a conversation about making OKRs actually work, and how AI

Jul 2
37 min

Peter Rojas, New Products at Mozilla, on Why Ideas Don't Decide Success

Watch on YouTube. Peter Rojas has built new things at almost every scale there is, and he planted the seed for this show years ago in an email to Michael. In this epis

Jun 16
46 min

AI Agents Need Logins Too: Identity, Security, and the Future of AI | Greg Keller, CTO, JumpCloud

Get 90 days of Fellow free at Fellow.ai/coo In this episode, Michael Koenig speaks with Greg Keller, co-founder and CTO of JumpCloud, about identity access management an

Mar 5
32 min

Seth Levine of Foundry Group on Capital Evolution, AI, and the Future of Company Leadership

Get 90 Days of Fellow's incredible AI notetaker for free at fellow.ai/coo Guest: Seth Levine Book: Capital Evolution Podcast: Between Two COOs Host: Michael Koenig W

Jan 28
48 min

Brad Feld On The Emotional Operating System of Great Leaders and Giving First

Get Brad's new book, Give First. 00:00 — Cold open: “Something new is fucked up in my world every day” 02:00 — The Yoda t-shirt story + the mythology of Brad Feld 04:0

Jan 20
57 min

AI, Fraud, and the Next Era of Commerce with Peter Dougherty, President of Spreedly

This episode goes deep into the mechanics of scaling a company from steady growth to breakout velocity. Peter shares how Spreedly quadrupled ARR growth in his first year

Dec 10 2025
45 min

The Power of Calm: GuideCX COO Harris Clarke on Building Trust and Systems That Hold

Get 90 Days of Fellow's AI Meeting Assistant FREE at fellow.ai/coo   This week on Between Two COOs, Michael sits down with Harris Clarke, COO at GuideCX, to talk about w

Nov 13 2025
58 min

The COO Who Turns Chaos Into Clarity - Anna Elwood of Cascade

From Zocdoc to Cascade, COO Anna Elwood breaks down the systems, rhythms, and AI tools that turn chaos into execution.   In this episode of Between Two COOs, Michael si

Oct 28 2025
38 min

Automattic Chief Quality Officer, Lance Willett, on What It Takes to Power 45% of the Web and Learning from a $250K Mistake

Try Fellow's AI Meeting Copilot - 90 days FREE - fellow.app/coo Guest: Lance Willett, Chief Quality Officer at Automattic Topics Covered: How Automattic’s open source

Jul 23 2025
52 min

Linda Tong, Webflow CEO, on the new web, AI-powered ops, and how they run Webflow

Get 90 days of Fellow's AI meeting assistant at fellow.app/coo Why Linda still codes on weekends — and what it teaches her about the future of AI (6:00) How AI is chang

Jul 8 2025
1 h 12 min

Kustomer COO & President, Doug Hanna, on Building Agentic AI, Running Sales, and Structuring Modern Ops Teams for the AI Era

Get 90 days of Fellow's AI meeting assistant at fellow.app/coo In this episode, Doug and I cover: Why “AI agent” is more than just a buzzwordThe difference between defl

Jun 4 2025
46 min

Sales Assembly President, Brad Rosen, on Unlocking Growth and Why RevOps Is Critical for Sustainable Scaling

Get 90 days free with Fellow's AI Meeting Assistant - https://fellow.app/coo   Key Takeaways: RevOps aligns and optimizes sales, marketing, and customer success, ensur

Apr 29 2025
46 min

The Bold Pivot: From Meetings to AI with Aydin Mirzaee, CEO of Fellow

Try Fellow's AI Meeting Copilot - 90 days FREE - fellow.app/coo Timestamps: (02:00) Fellow’s shift from productivity tool to AI assistant. (07:00) Implementing large-s

Apr 15 2025
47 min

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Hearing Michael interview other COOs will give you the impression that the job is mostly for those serendipitous types who are as comfortable accepting responsibility for accidental success as they are nonchalant about climbing Mount Everest. Ok you caught me, I’m a friend of Micheal (at least until he reads this review) so I’m biased. But I listen because as an entrepreneur the stories and lessons have helped me steer my own business better than I could have done by ignoring them. Michael, when are you going to have me on your show?

skeltoac · Apr 2023

Thanks for taking the time to produce such a high quality podcast. As a new COO I’ve already taken away some gems from your conversations. I look forward to all the upcoming episodes.

Meg In Chicago · Dec 2021

Very interesting and informative discussion about being a COO by two COOs. Worth the time spent listening. Very relatable.

urol doc · Nov 2021

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