Food · Deb Perelman & J. Kenji López-Alt
by Deb Perelman & J. Kenji López-Alt
Hi, we’re Deb Perelman (Smitten Kitchen) and J. Kenji López-Alt (Serious Eats, The Food Lab, The Wok). We’re professional home cooks, which means we can - and will - make the same meal 57 times in a row on the quest for the perfect recipe. Is it crazy? For us, no, because we do this for a living. But for you? Yes, probably. Which is why you should listen to The Recipe with Kenji and Deb. You'll hear us talk about what goes into writing our recipes — the techniques we test, the ingredients we taste — so that you can be on your way to creating your own perfect recipe. Whether you're cooking meatloaf, pancakes, or chicken soup in all its forms, we got you, and you've got this. The Recipe with Kenji and Deb is a proud member of Radiotopia from PRX, a network of independent and listener-supported podcasts. Discover audio with vision at radiotopia.fm.
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Love the friendly banter between these two hosts. Very entertaining to hear their different perspectives and personalities!
Excellent education on how to break down a recipe and make it your own - love how they focus on a lot of the basics. My picky eater of a daughter loves it too and it has encouraged her to try some new things and be more involved in the kitchen!
Gosh, I’m stunned by some of the reviews of this pod, and wondering if I haven’t listened long enough to render an opinion. But, honestly, I have been enjoying this a lot. The recipe topics are around really basic recipes. That’s the point! It’s dishes we all prepare and/or consume and, thus, all have opinions about. It’s a deep dive into the ins, outs, and possibilities. It’s a podcast for food nerds. If this isn’t you, it’s not going to be your cup of tea. Personally, I love the opportunity to break down, re-think, and reconsider dishes I have been making a certain way for years. I think that’s the point of this podcast. Many have criticized the dynamic between Deb and Kenji, but, if anything, I have enjoyed their clearly different backgrounds they bring. They are both complimentary of one another’s recipes, even when they disagree. Maybe people aren’t realizing that the podcast is not recorded in a single take? So, at times, it might seem like one is interrupting or failing to respond to the other? These are heavily chopped up conversations, folks. Give ‘em a break! Anyways, I’m enjoying this one a lot. I’m sooo here for an hour discussion of popcorn. Thank you so much.
I consider myself an accomplished home cook. On the surface each of the episodes I’ve listened to initially sound like rudimentary cooking. Having said that, I have yet to fail to come away with a new technique or a new idea about the things I cook at home as a result of this podcast.
It’s one thing to have friendly banter and ideas flowing back and forth. It’s another thing when one host is constantly weighing in with the “correction” to the other host. Deb is charming and stands back (or defers) to Kenji constantly. Because (I’d guess) he likes to be right. His attempt to be friendly is not convincing. And it makes the banter uncomfortable. Which means there’s no way to enjoy the show. Let Deb do her own thing. She doesn’t need a man to tell her she’s right.
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