As former Stanford roommates and now business partners, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni share their experience as startup founders and the complexities of being young professionals—from financial literacy, social impact, and navigating networking (ever been hit on through LinkedIn?). With exclusive access to top experts, they offer an inside look at their chaotic lives alongside career insights from their network of thought leaders. Watch The Burnouts pursue their dreams while trying to keep their lives from going up in flames. Will they burn out? We’ll find out.
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Sep 14 17 min
Why Most People Lose Arguments (Sales Tricks That Made Shelby Sapp $1M/Month at 24)
How did Shelby Sapp go from selling rat poison door-to-door to becoming a 24-year-old founder making 8-figures per year? It's the same trick she uses to win arguments wit
May 7 35 min
Shark Tank Icon: Turning $1,000 to $1Billion! (ft. Barbara Corcoran)
Barbara Corcoran is the founder of the Corcoran Group, one of New York's most iconic real estate brands, and a star investor on ABC's Shark Tank for 17 seasons. From bein
Apr 23 29 min
What Really Happens at Billionaires' Private Parties (Michael Rubin)
Michael Rubin breaks down the truth about the White Party, why relationships matter more than people realize, and how he thinks about building rooms where power, business
Apr 9 30 min
Dating 101 as an Ambitious Woman: How to Seduce Anyone (ft. Chloe Shih)
Chloe Shih breaks down all the best dating tips she wishes she knew in her 20s. Learn how to flirt, which guys to date, and how to build a relationship that lasts.
Chloe
Mar 26 23 min
Billionaire Makeup Artist Spills the Kardashians' Beauty Secrets & How Celebs get Perfect Faces
Eyebrows built a billion-dollar brand—and Anastasia Soare explains exactly why. In this episode, you’ll learn the “golden ratio” method she used to shape brows for any fa
Mar 12 49 min
Alex Cooper: The TRUTH About Call Her Daddy and my $100M+ Media Empire
Alex Cooper breaks down the business side nobody sees: how she and her husband Matt built Unwell up from a scrappy startup, how podcasting revenue really works, and what
Mar 5 42 min
Celebrity Stylist: How To Stand Out, Style Celebrities & 10-min Morning Fashion Upgrade (Rachel Zoe)
Rachel Zoe breaks down how to build a standout career in fashion before you feel ready. You’ll also learn her practical frameworks for getting dressed with less stress an
Feb 26 36 min
Money Expert: Quit Your 9-5 and Get Rich the Easy Way. This is What I Did. (ft. Sahil Bloom)
Sahil Bloom had everything society tells you to want: Stanford degree, private equity job, money, status — but he was miserable. Drinking seven nights a week. 40 pounds o
Feb 19 45 min
Fashion Design Expert: How to Make Iconic Outfits & Make It Big in Fashion (Rebecca Minkoff)
Rebecca Minkoff built a global fashion brand from a $3.25/hour internship, a scrappy “I ❤️ NY” tee after 9/11, and one breakout bag that women literally stopped her on th
Feb 12 38 min
Duolingo CEO: How to Brainwash Yourself to Success and Get Addicted to Learning. Follow these habits
Luis Von Ahn details the story behind Duolingo and its famous owl, how to do handle marketing in the TikTok era, hiring young talent, and using addictive habits for good.
Feb 5 40 min
The TOP Lessons from Building a $185M Business (Sophia Kianni & Phoebe Gates)
Phoebe and Sophia detail the best lessons they have learned from the career playbooks of the most successful people in the world, from how to leverage relationships in yo
Jan 29 16 min
The Money Expert: 5 Businesses That Can Make You RICH (Without a 9-to-5!) ft. Codie Sanchez
Codie Sanchez breaks down why chasing fame is a losing game—and why real wealth is often built quietly through “boring” businesses most people overlook. Drawing on her ba
Jan 15 1 h 05 min
$400M Investor: They're lying about how you get rich! Turn $0 into Millions (Harry Stebbings)
He started a podcast in his bedroom before most people land their first job.
Now, Harry Stebbings runs one of the most influential platforms in venture capital and manag
Jan 8 46 min
Meet the 25 year-old Victoria's Secret model who's NASCAR's only female driver (ft. Toni Breidinger)
One day, she was racing Daytona. The next, she was shooting for Victoria’s Secret.
NASCAR driver, model, and trailblazer Toni Breidinger is living two worlds, and paying
Jan 1 45 min
Meet the 25-Year-Old Taking Over the $2B Elie Tahari Empire
He arrived in New York with $100, slept in parks, showered at the YMCA — and went on to invent the tube top, dress Studio 54, and build a billion-dollar fashion empire.
Dec 18 2025 35 min
Poppi Founder: How I Went from Stay-at-Home Mom to Building a $2B Healthy Soda Empire
Allison Ellsworth went from oil & gas spreadsheets to building Poppi, the prebiotic soda that broke the internet, rewrote the rules on “healthy soda,” and sold to PepsiCo
Dec 11 2025 38 min
Meet the Cult Gaia Founder Who Turned Rejection Into a $50 MILLION Brand
Founder and creative force Jasmin Larian Hekmat reveals the untold story of how she turned a scrappy side hobby into Cult Gaia, one of the most recognizable fashion brand
Dec 4 2025 36 min
Meet the Oxford Student Who Built Three Multimillion-Dollar Brands by 25 (ft. Grace Beverley)
Founder and author Grace Beverley built a multimillion-dollar portfolio of brands—TALA, Shreddy, and The Productivity Method—before turning 25.
In this episode of The Bu
Nov 27 2025 32 min
Billionaire Steve Madden Went to Prison, SUED Adidas, Sold Designer DUPES and Built a Fashion Empire
In this episode of The Burnouts, Steve sits down with Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni to share the true story of how he went from a college dropout selling shoes in Queens
Nov 20 2025 43 min
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The business podcast every founder needs in their earbuds. It’s refreshingly honest, deeply relatable, and packed with the kind of conversations most entrepreneurs are too afraid to have out loud. Instead of glamorizing the grind, they talk about the real cost of building something meaningful and how to do it without losing yourself in the process. Every episode feels like a mix of therapy, strategy, and “I thought I was the only one.” If you’re building a business, navigating burnout, or trying to find your way back to passion and purpose, this podcast will meet you exactly where you are. Truly one of my favorites.
Delgado Creative Group · Dec 2025
You know what I love about this? Female representation! Finally a podcast with interviewees that aren’t exclusively male. Thank you!
AkG123456* · Aug 2025
The Burnouts has a substantial premise, with a lot of ground to cover ahead of it, and room for evolution and exciting insights. I think everyone is curious about start-up culture, and in particular, the types of individuals who go for it, and how they measure and achieve an idea of success. Often, we only hear from people once they’ve “made it,” and even then, the definition of that is murky, or propelled by the cultural zeitgeist. What I find interesting, is that with one episode, you’re able to take insights from Phoebe and Sophia, and apply them to any time/position in your life. I am a different generation, but found their learnings to be incredibly authentic, new to me, and uplifting. Looking forward to where they will take this.
Moghanogano · Apr 2025
This is an amazing podcast—Phoebe & Sophia share their own amazing insights and they have extremely successful guests to share theirs.
To the people saying “how can you be burnt out at 22”…you clearly weren’t doing enough in your early 20s, which is why you’re leaving mean comments on two highly successful women’s podcast.
You guys are an inspiration! Keep doing what you’re doing 🫶🏼
f🍂ll · Aug 2025
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