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The Chad & Cheese Podcast

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Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

Latest episodes

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How AI is Reshaping the Workplace with Paul Roetzer

SmarterX founder and CEO Paul Roetzer joins the boys for a chat about how AI is reshaping the workforce in ways most don't suspect. Paul sold his marketing agency in 2021

Sep 15
39 min

Jobs Utopia or Fiasco?

Joel, Chad , and Emi break down the intersection of AI recruitment technology, global labor markets, and industry regulation, alongside pop culture banter and sports high

Sep 11
1 h 05 min

Shredded: Factorial, Empion, Werkhelden, JobBooster, Guardian Jobs, Jobbio, Amply, & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

Sep 10
4 min

Real Girls, Real AI & Real Talk with Lauren B. Jones

On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Joel and Chad welcome Lauren B. Jones—founder and CEO of Leap Advisory Partners and author of Real Girls Roadmap to Masterin

Sep 8
30 min

HiBob Beast Mode & DOL Dismantles Worker Protections

The latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast delivers a hard-hitting breakdown of massive developments across technology, enterprise software, and corporate compliance

Sep 4
59 min

Shredded: Workday, Yardstik, Accenture, McCoy, Comware, Recruiter.com, HiBob, & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

Sep 3
4 min

Slop, Supply & the Search Process: Ben Zweig Breaks Down the Data

Slop, Supply & the Search Process On this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, Joel and Chad sit down with Ben Zweig, CEO of Revelio Labs, economist, NYU Stern professo

Sep 1
36 min

Recruit Holdings' "Alleged" Cartel

This week on The Chad and Cheese Podcast (dubbed HR’s most dangerous podcast), hosts Chad Sowash, JT O’Donnell, and Maureen "Mo" Wiley Clough break down the latest corpor

Aug 28
51 min

Shredded: Twin1, Runlayer, Rippling, Gatik, Microsoft, Flip, Deel, & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

Aug 27
5 min

SignalLabs + BrassRing = Signals of Attention

On this installment of "HR's Most Dangerous Podcast," Chad Sowash and Joel Cheeseman grill Raj Ronanki, CEO of Signal Labs, on one of the weirdest M&A moves the HR tech s

Aug 25
35 min

Walmart Slumps, Workday Jumps & Indeed Marketing Chumps

Live from a Portuguese bar annex, Chad and Joel crack open a cold cider and fire up "HR's Most Dangerous Podcast" to roast the absolute state of modern recruiting. Before

Aug 21
1 h 03 min

Shredded: Workday, Aerotek, PAC Group, Monster, LinkedIn, Microsoft, Indeed & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

Aug 20
4 min

When AI Needs Humans with Sonja Breuer

In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, hosts Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman sit down with Sonja Breuer, Senior Vice President of HR at Hamra Enterprises a powerhous

Aug 18
40 min

ZipRecruiter Financial Gymnastics

Get ready for a jam-packed episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast as hosts Joel Cheesman, Chad Sowash, and Emi B serve up their trademark mix of industry news, corporate ea

Aug 14
59 min

Shredded: ZipRecruiter, Recruit Holdings, Upwork, Dice, Spark Hire, Careerminds, & Jobrapido

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

Aug 13
5 min

Ageism, Algo-Bias, and Corp Naughtiness w/ Cassell Kaye

Ageism is out in the open, AI is masking mass corporate cost-cutting, and 1 in 3 job postings might be completely fake. In this episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, 20-y

Aug 11
32 min

Indeed Pauses, Fiverr Falls & Rippling Ransacks

The latest episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast with Emi and Lieven is officially live, and it is a certified must-watch. In this episode, the crew dives straight into a

Aug 7
59 min

Shredded: Foundational, LinkedIn, Buildforce, Deel, Clarity, Runlayer, Rippling, & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of what’s making headlines in the world of employment.

Aug 6
6 min

90 Days Hired, They Stay a Year w/ Jolene Hostal

In this episode, HR veteran Jolene Hostal joins Joel and Chad to discuss how a legacy brand like Stanley Steemer stays "young and vibrant" in a competitive labor market.

Aug 4
27 min

LinkedIn Sloppin, Google's No Click AI Poppin', and OpenAI's Jail Breakin'

Is LinkedIn turning into a bot-ridden wasteland? Is Google actively blowing up its own revenue model? And are AI agents already plotting their escape from human containme

Jul 31
1 h 01 min

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