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Excess Returns is dedicated to making you a better long-term investor and making complex investing topics understandable. Join Jack Forehand, Justin Carbonneau and Matt Zeigler as they sit down with some of the most interesting names in finance to discuss topics like macroeconomics, value investing, factor investing, and more. Subscribe to learn along with us.

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He Lost $157,000 in 3 Minutes | Jack Raines on the Lesson Winning Never Taught Him

Jack Raines turned $6,000 into roughly $400,000 trading SPACs, then lost $157,000 in three minutes after taking a very different bet. The author of Young Money joins Matt

Sep 23
59 min

The AI Gap Is Closing | Jason Hsu on China, Momentum Crashes and the S&P’s Seven-Stock Bet

Jason Hsu, founder and CIO of Rayliant Global Advisors and co-founder of Research Affiliates, joins Excess Returns to discuss the US-China AI race, the economics of AI sp

Sep 20
55 min

David Rosenberg on Why He Wants the Bonds Everyone Hates — and Where He's Hiding in Stocks

David Rosenberg returns to Excess Returns to explain his bullish case for Treasury bonds, why he expects inflation and economic growth to slow, and the risks he sees in a

Sep 18
1 h 01 min

Franklin Templeton CEO Jenny Johnson on AI, Private Markets, and the Hidden Risks in Index Funds

Franklin Templeton CEO Jenny Johnson joins Matt Zeigler to explore how AI, blockchain tokenization, and private markets are reshaping investing and asset management. They

Sep 16
55 min

Jim Paulsen on the Weakening Economy, Tech Bear Market Risk and the Bull Market Built on Fear

Jim Paulsen joins Jack Forehand and Matt Zeigler on the latest Jim Paulsen Show to explore why booming AI earnings may be masking a weakening U.S. economy, and what that

Sep 14
1 h 01 min

We Asked Fidelity's Ex-President What Made Peter Lynch Great — and Where Private Credit Risk Hides

Former Fidelity president and MFS chairman Bob Pozen joins Excess Returns to discuss retirement investing, the risks in private credit, and why he favors a 90% stock and

Sep 12
1 h 00 min

Everyone Hates Bonds. Why Two Bond Managers Say You're Hating the Wrong Ones

John Kerschner and Michael Contopoulos of Janus Henderson join Matt Zeigler to explain why persistent inflation and higher interest rates call for a different approach to

Sep 10
1 h 05 min

All-In on the S&P 500 Worked for 18 Years | Jared Dillian on Why It's Still Wrong

Jared Dillian joins Matt Zeigler to discuss The Awesome Portfolio, his approach to asset allocation built around 20% each in stocks, bonds, gold, cash, and real estate. T

Sep 8
56 min

Nvidia Is Betting on Its Customers. Gen Z Is Betting on Sports. Will It All End the Same Way?

Cameron Dawson and Dave Nadig join Matt Zeigler on Click Beta to explore how sports betting, leveraged ETFs and speculative behavior are blurring the line between gamblin

Sep 6
55 min

Bearish Into November. Room to Run After: Why Dan Niles Is Watching Hyperscaler Credit Default Swaps

Dan Niles joins Excess Returns to explain why he believes AI is a genuine industrial revolution and a bubble at the same time, with significant opportunity still ahead bu

Sep 3
1 h 00 min

The Fed Credibility Narrative Has Turned | Ben Hunt on AI, the Consumer and Financial Repression

Ben Hunt joins Matt Zeigler to explain why damaged Fed and Treasury credibility could matter just as four major risks converge across private credit, AI financing, oil an

Sep 3
51 min

Sticky Inflation. Cheap Volatility. A Less Predictable Fed. Why Aren’t Markets More Worried?

This month on Last Call, Kevin Muir, Aahan Menon, Ben Hunt and Brent Kochuba break down the market through four lenses: macro, inflation data, narrative and options posit

Aug 31
1 h 02 min

The Profits Come Now. The Costs Come Later. Kevin Muir on Whether AI Earnings Are the Bubble

Kevin Muir of The MacroTourist joins Matt Zeigler to break down the bond market, Scott Bessent's Treasury buybacks, the Treasury General Account, AI-driven earnings growt

Aug 29
1 h 04 min

Private Equity Chased Software. Big Tech Is Chasing AI. Dan Rasmussen on If They Are Making the Same Mistake Twice

Dan Rasmussen, founder and managing partner of Verdad Advisers and author of The Humble Investor, joins Kai Wu to examine the unraveling of private equity, the rise of pr

Aug 28
57 min

Only 2.7% Beat the S&P for 20 Years | Ian Cassel on What Elite Stock Pickers Do Differently

Ian Cassel, founder of MicroCapClub and author of Stock Picker, joins Matt Zeigler to break down the mindset, temperament and core skills required to outperform as an act

Aug 25
1 h 00 min

The Rally is Broadening. The Earnings Growth Isn't. Liz Ann Sonders on Which Breaks First

Liz Ann Sonders, Chief Investment Strategist at Charles Schwab, joins us to explain why today's economy and stock market are increasingly defined by rotation, instability

Aug 22
1 h 01 min

We Asked Andy Constan What Happens If AI Funding Breaks Before the Thesis — And if Warsh Blinks

Andy Constan is back on First Principles to explain why record stock prices, rising long-term Treasury yields and sticky inflation can all coexist, and why the next major

Aug 20
1 h 00 min

We Asked Value Legend Bob Robotti Why the Real AI Trade Isn't AI — And Why Passive Helps Stock Pickers

Bob Robotti, founder and CIO of Robotti & Company, joins Matt Zeigler and Bogumil Baranowski to explain why bottom-up value investing may be entering one of its best oppo

Aug 18
1 h 07 min

Jim Paulsen Sees a Growth Scare Coming | The 34 Charts That Make Him Cautious

In this episode of The Jim Paulsen Show, Jim explains why weakening labor data, softening inflation, and lagged policy tightening could shift markets from inflation fears

Aug 14
1 h 00 min

We Asked T. Rowe's $8 Billion Tech Manager Why We Are in 1998 — And Why Software Is in Trouble

T. Rowe Price technology portfolio manager Dom Rizzo joins Jack Forehand and Kai Wu to break down the AI investment cycle, hyperscaler capital spending, semiconductor dem

Aug 11
1 h 00 min

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What listeners say

A curated, balanced selection of Apple Podcasts reviews.

I very much enjoy your podcasts, topics and guests. However I feel you crossed the line with Tony Greer and let him move your Podcast into the political sphere. I am going to guess that’s not what your typical listeners want to hear. Still on board and looking forward to new and unique topics - but please stay away from extreme thinkers who spew garbage to churn their niche asset class.

Triple Gee · Feb 2026

Hosts are engaging experts that make concepts accessible to all audiences. My new favorite pod!

L0vely88 · Mar 2021

Continue to love these discussions and the educational value they provide. Very generous opportunities to learn more by writing a review to receive relevant books, which provide deeper dives into the topics discussed

jftd88 · Sep 2020

Jack and Justin do a great job of taking complex investing topics and making them understandable.

lew725 · Sep 2020

This was by far the poorest show I've heard from an otherwise useful podcast series. Tony Greer spouts data-free opinions about directions of markets and the economy without any challenge from the host. I don't mind a contrarian, but I expect to hear a well-reasoned set of opinions backing up contrarian views. In this case nothing but tripe. And generally, great investors don't focus on politics, as they try to make money no matter who is running the show, but politics was a massive basis for his investing views. I fell like I wasted 40 minutes of my life.

Davechem 1 · Jan 2026

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