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Government · Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

The National Security Law Podcast

by Bobby Chesney and Steve Vladeck

Unpacking the Legal Issues Behind the Headlines

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Episode 247: Deal, No Deal

Hello friends, and welcome back to the NSL Podcast with Professor Vladeck and Dean Chesney.  Tune in for a detailed discussion of the bizarre plea-deal-wait-nevermind-no-

Aug 7 2024
1 h 10 min

Episode 246: Around the Drain in 80 Days

Betcha thought we were done…but we’re back!  Tune in as Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss and debate the latest (ok, some of this stuff is months old) national secu

Jun 20 2024
1 h 21 min

Episode 245: 100 Days Later…

Hello, is this thing on?  Check one, check two…testing, testing.  We’re good?  Alright alright alright… It’s been 100 days between shows.  Thought maybe the world might

Apr 2 2024
1 h 27 min

Episode 244: Not Our 30th Episode of 2023

Barring an unlikely spate of more than a dozen episodes happening over the next week, it sure looks like Steve has won his bet with Bobby, for this marks the 16th episode

Dec 23 2023
1 h 11 min

Episode 243: Boiled Froggy Water Under the Bridge

Two months between episodes?  Looks like someone will be buying Steve a dinner at the conclusion of 2023 (barring a pivot to posting new episodes every day). As for what

Nov 28 2023
1 h 19 min

Episode 242: A Rule of Law (and Punctuation) Free Episode!

Sorry about accidentally taking the whole month off, but we’re back with a classic: tune in for the 9/11 case warm-up, and stick around for 45 minutes of wrangling over t

Sep 29 2023

Episode 241: Let’s Barbie!

Tune in for the latest, in which we discuss life as a fall 1L, RICO, removal, Nashiri, Bahlul, Shimari, Barbie, and Silo. And if all those names mean something to you…wel

Aug 22 2023
1 h 16 min

Episode 240: Something Got Released

If you are interested in a detailed and careful explanation of the charges at issue in United States v. Trump (the recent indictment of the former president in relation t

Aug 8 2023
1 h 04 min

Episode 239: We Have Many Tapestries!

Well, it’s been about a month, so it’s good we are finally back with a fresh episode!  Tune in as hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney kick the tires on: The New York T

Jul 11 2023
1 h 22 min

Episode 238: The World Wonders

Today’s episode focuses on the indictment in United States v. Donald Trump and Waltine Nauta, S.D. Fla. (23-80101-CR).  Co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney walk you

Jun 12 2023
58 min

Episode 237: Are You Not Detained???

And we're back, with co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney breaking down the latest national security law news along with much else.  This week the spotlight is on the

Apr 25 2023
1 h 19 min

Episode 236: Damn the Torpedoes!

Good morning!  Episode 236 covers: The Trump Indictment The Biden Administration's Executive Order on Abusive Commercial Spyware A CENTCOM strike against an IS target

Apr 5 2023
50 min

Episode 235: A Drone Struck

We're back with a Spring Break edition, featuring: ICC cases emerging against Russian defendants for (1) removing children from Ukraine to Russia and (2) attacking civi

Mar 16 2023
1 h 09 min

Episode 234: Not *That* Linda Hamilton

Are you ready for a DEEP DIVE?  We've got an extended conversation today explaining the stakes and anticipating the outcomes in two cases argued in front of SCOTUS this w

Feb 23 2023
1 h 08 min

Episode 233: This Episode Was (Not) Written by ChatGPT

We are delighted this week to feature two Texas Law students -- Sam Libby and Alex Rigby -- who earned the chance to co-host the show with us thanks to their generosity s

Feb 14 2023
1 h 12 min

Episode 232: Top Gun 3: Deflategate!

After a week with no electricity, Professors Vladeck and Chesney are back with the latest in national security law news.  Tune in for discussions of: the law (or lack t

Feb 9 2023
41 min

Episode 231: If You Go to Washington Don’t Crime There

What's this, a one-week turnaround between shows?  Will wonders never cease? In a throwback to the days of this being a weekly show, your co-hosts Bobby Chesney and Steve

Jan 24 2023
55 min

Episode 230, Not Section 230

Wouldn't want you to be misled by the episode number (though we do actually foreshadow some future Section 230 coverage in light of an upcoming pair of SCOTUS cases)!  At

Jan 17 2023
54 min

Episode 229: We Are Not Not Going to Post Weekly in 2023 Maybe

Happy 2023 y'all!  We are off to a quick start this year.  Tune in as Professors Vladeck and Chesney discuss recent developments, including: The Supreme Court's "Title

Jan 2 2023
1 h 15 min

Episode 228: Not *That* George Clinton!

Holiday edition!  Tune in as co-hosts Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss the rapid demise of the attempt by Donald Trump's lawyers to use Executive Privilege in rela

Dec 13 2022
1 h 05 min

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I really enjoy the deep dives these guys take on the National Security law issues and their companionable “back and forth” and off topic chats BUT the constant verbal tics “like” “you know” drive me nuts. For law professors I find it surprising they still talk like that. Today they gave some nice advice to first year law students: I am an attorney and my advice to the students would be to purge your speech of those crutch words—- in my opinion it makes you a less effective communicator.

Brendastevens · Aug 2023

A podcast with two friends who have ideological differences but find common ground and work to articulate their disagreements for the benefit of the listener. That shouldn’t be as refreshing as it is, but, well, it is. Don’t get me wrong. Bobby and Steve will make you laugh. They’re a pair of delightful dork dads with fun hobbies and quirks. But you’ll also leave each episode feeling like there’s a better way. Our society needs more of this.

trurl_klapaucius · Apr 2023

Chesney and Vladeck not only recap but also explain recent developments at the intersection of US law and national security. Although bringing basic familiarity with legal concepts is helpful, the law school dean/prof and prof (respectively) regularly pause to explain arcana or nuances to the non-lawyer listener. Plus the “Frivolity” segments at the end are enjoyable and often thought-provoking critiques of film, sports, and television.

Big Racing Fan · Feb 2023

Informative, evenhanded, entertaining, riveting and timely, though lamentably Yankeephobic (gods forgive our Steve).

Slanebrain · Jul 2022

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