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Non-Profit · Trenia Parham and David DeVaughn

Not 4 Prophets Podcast

by Trenia Parham and David DeVaughn

The Not 4 Prophets Podcast is the place where two seasoned, Black non-profit professionals spill the tea on what really goes on behind closed doors in the nonprofit industry and how it impacts Black leaders and leaders of color. We’ll share our personal experience, industry trends and tools and strategies for navigating the world of non-profit leadership as Black professionals.

Latest episodes

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Black Men, Masculinity, and the Relationship Gap

For the season 4 finale, David and Trenia step away from the workplace and organizational themes that anchored this season to have a more personal conversation. One about

Aug 18
43 min

Late Reckoning: When Accountability Catches Up to the Person Who Harmed You

Sometimes the person who harmed you at work keeps rising. They get the bigger title, the public profile, years of recognition, while the institution that knew what they d

Aug 11
33 min

Conditional Solidarity: Organizing With People You Can't Fully Trust

There's a force in this country that wants to remove Black people from society — except for our labor and our entertainment. And then there are people who call themselves

Aug 4
35 min

The Hidden Tax of Doing Business While Black

Government agencies and nonprofits love to talk about equity in contracting. But Black-owned and minority and women-owned small businesses (MWBE) are living the reality o

Jul 28
41 min

Are They Really Gonna Fund a Revolution?

Are they really going to fund a revolution? That's the question underneath every grant application, corporate sponsorship, and philanthropic relationship that asks for gr

Jul 21
35 min

We're Tired: Black People & the Divestment from Social Movements

Black people are stepping back from social movements, from organizing,  and the exhausting cycle of being the moral conscience of a country that doesn't return the favor.

Jul 14
32 min

Half a Million Out: Black Women, Work, and What's Next

500,000 Black women have been pushed out of the workforce. Not quit. Not retired. Pushed out. David and Trenia talk about that number and the “easy” narrative that foll

Jul 7
38 min

Right-Sizing Your Life: Pros, Cons, and the Courage to Restructure

People are moving abroad. Moving back in with family. Downsizing, pooling resources, pulling back from obligations that don't serve them anymore. Some might think of it a

Jun 30
38 min

The Fixer, Savior & Devil's Advocate: The Chaos People Bring to Black-Led Spaces

You build a space rooted in Black values, Black vision, Black leadership, and then people walk in carrying every unresolved thing from every other space they've ever been

Jun 23
35 min

Quitting While Black: The Real Price of Leaving a Job

Leaving a job, starting a business, and walking away from an institution for Black leaders are not simple career moves, nor have they ever been. From convict leasing and

Jun 16
37 min

The Black Tax on Institutional Loyalty

What do Black people inside nonprofits owe the communities they came from? That's the question at the center of this episode, sparked by Kevin Hart's defense of a Georg

Jun 9
30 min

Performing Blackness For a Paycheck

Most workplaces have a version of Blackness they'll tolerate: polished, grateful, low-maintenance, and a version they won't. In this episode, David and Trenia get into wh

Jun 2
35 min

When Professional Development Becomes Micromanagement

Not all support is supportive. In this episode, we dig into how professional development like mentorship, coaching, and  training can be misused as a tool for control, e

Jun 30 2025
34 min

This Job Is Hurting My Mental Health

Black Leaders’ Mental Health in the Workplace: What’s Really Happening? It’s not just burnout. It’s isolation, gaslighting, chronic underestimation, and being the onl

Jun 23 2025
36 min

Black Leaders vs. HR: From PIPs to Token Benefits

For many Black professionals, HR isn’t protection, it’s surveillance. In this episode, we’re naming the truth that too often gets whispered behind closed doors: Human Re

Jun 16 2025
37 min

When ‘Progressive’ Workplaces Protect the Status Quo

Sometimes it’s not you, it’s the system. In this episode, we’re calling out the deep dysfunction inside nonprofits, institutions, and “progressive” spaces that claim the

Jun 9 2025
40 min

Beyond the W2: Lessons from Life After the Corporate Grind

We’re told to make it in systems that were never built for us. But what happens after the resignation, the burnout, the pivot, or the layoff? In this episode, we’re talk

Jun 2 2025
41 min

It’s Not Impostor Syndrome, It’s Systemic Racism

“You don’t belong here.” Nobody says it out loud, but Black professionals feel it all the time. In this episode, we’re flipping the script on impostor syndrome. Too oft

May 26 2025
35 min

DEI Leadership in Crisis: What’s Next for Black Leaders?

The DEI wave that surged in 2020 is crashing, and once again, Black professionals are the first to pay the price. From layoffs and sidelining to performative accountabili

May 19 2025
36 min

Leading Through Absurd Times for Black Leaders

At some point in leadership, especially for Black leaders, the work starts to feel absurd. The goals no longer make sense. The requests become contradictory. The funding

May 12 2025
31 min

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