Never Contemplated

Administrative Lawyers: The Coolest People

Join us for a conversation with Elizabeth Fernandez, Chair of the Administrative Law Section, and Judge Hetal Desai, as they explore the unique practice of administrative

Pick it and Stick It

Join us for this fresh reboot of Never Contemplated where our host Judge Hetal Desai talks to Judge Carrie Ann Wozniak, the incoming Chair of The Florida Bar Appellate Co

The Practice of Law May be Different Than You Imagined

Listen to our episode with Magie Ozarowski, the new host of the On Civility podcast. Judge Desai and Ms. Ozarowski talk about what it’s like to be a government attorney,

Never Contemplated with Renée E. Thompson Chair-Elect of The Florida Bar’s Solo & Small Firm Section

Enjoy this interactive session as our host, Judge Hetal Desai talks with Renée E. Thompson Chair of The Florida Bar’s Solo & Small Firm Section as they discuss the many b

Committee Work -Collaborating to Create a Better World for Colleagues and Florida Families

In this episode of Never Contemplated, host Judge Hetal Desai talks with two distinguished members of The Florida Bar’s Family Law Section, Sarah Kay, and Shannon Novey.

Immerse Yourself and Just Get Involved - Victoria Heuler and Sarah Butters

Meet Victoria Heuler and Sarah Butters, leaders of the Florida Bar’s Elder Law and Real Property Probate and Trust Law (RPPTL) Sections. Learn about the differences and s

Surround Yourself with Amazing People - Rebecca Bandy

This episode is a true holiday gift. Enjoy this interactive recording with Judge Hetal Desai and Rebecca Bandy, Director of the Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism a

It’s a much more gratifying way of life when you are serving others - Justice Meredith Sasso

Meet Justice Meredith Sasso, the newest member of the Florida Supreme Court. Listen to her conversation with Judge Hetal Desai about growing up in the capital city, what

The Ability to Read the Room is as Important as the Ability to Read the Law - Alexis Fowler

Enjoy this interactive session with Judge Desai and Alexis Fowler, Government Relations Director at Moffitt Cancer Center in Tampa, where they discuss her survival story

Recognize Your Own Talents - Melanie S. Griffin

Enjoy this speed session with Judge Desai and Secretary of the Department of Business and Professional Regulation (DBPR), where they discuss mentorship, the FSU J.D./M.B.

Pro Bono work helps students develop as lawyers and not just people who know the law - Dean Theresa Radwan

Judge Desai asks the Interim Dean of Stetson Law School Theresa Radwan questions about the Law School’s history and its current program. Listen to Dean Radwan explain the

Education Can Change Everything - Dean Deidré A. Keller

In the third installment of this season’s “Never Contemplated - The Making of a Good Lawyer,” Judge Hetal Desai interviews Deidré A. Keller, the Dean of Florida Agricultu

Be Curious, Be Bold, and Take the Leap - Dean Laura A. Rosenbury

In the second installment of this season’s “Never Contemplated - The Making of a Good Lawyer,” Judge Hetal Desai interviews Dean Laura A. Rosenbury of the University of F

The Making of a Good Lawyer- Dean Erin O'Hara O'Connor

In the first installment of this season’s “Never Contemplated - The Making of a Good Lawyer,” Judge Hetal Desai interviews Dean Erin O’Hara O’Conner, who discusses her ro

Be Authentic to Who You Are and Let Service Guide You - Judge Navarro

In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes Judge Navarro, who discusses her unique background, learning about drug court and the ways to mentor others ab

Special Release - Part 2: Administrative Law Judges Lisa Nelson, Suzanne Van Wyk, and Lynne Quimby-Pennock

The Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, pr

Special Release - Part 1: Administrative Law Judges Cathy Sellers and Francine Ffolkes

The Florida Bar’s Henry Latimer Center for Professionalism presents Never Contemplated, a candid discussion with female judges from across the state about gender bias, pr

Be in Court, Prepared and On Time; Be Civil; and Be Straightforward - Chief Judge Munyon

 In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes the 9th Circuit Chief Judge Lisa Munyon who discusses her background and path to the bench. REFERENCED RESO

Public Service is Always Challenging, Never Boring - Secretary Simone Marstiller

In this episode of Never Contemplated, Judge Desai welcomes former judge and current Secretary of the Agency for Healthcare Administration, Simone Marstiller who discusse

You're Not an Island - Judge Meg Kerr

In this episode, Judge Meg Kerr discusses her unique background and path to the Office of Judges of Compensation Claims, where she is assigned to Worker's Compensation ca