Visual Arts · Jay Fram and Bill Sawalich
by Jay Fram and Bill Sawalich
Continuous Agitation is two working photographers with decades of experience still struggling to figure it out. Jay Fram and Bill Sawalich talk about what’s working, what isn’t, and what the hell is happening to the photo business.
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Excellent podcast for working pros. I aged out of photo podcasts that are just the same “how did you get started” interviews, and I deeply appreciate the perspectives and discussion from two active, practicing creatives.
Wise, insightful and pretty funny discussions by working photographers on a field in the midst of massive change. It’s both reassuring (mostly) and informative, and I can’t think of a better resource on the subject.
As a student photo journalist, I keep hearing all my professors talk about how we must just give in and adapt to AI and state of the industry. It is so refreshing to hear people I can look up to, and who have mentored me, share a perspective that centers the question “why?” instead of just saying “alright” and going along with things.
What impressed me most is how thoughtfully and eloquently they discuss commercial photography. Photography is fundamentally a visual language, yet Jay and Bill have an uncommon ability to translate its nuances, challenges, and artistry into words.
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