Coffee & Cocoa: A Conversation About Reconstructing Your Family After They've Deconstructed Their Faith

Why Gen Z Women are Walking Away

Season two of Coffee and Cocoa is here! Kari and Kimberly are back from a long break, and they jump right into the conversation that's been all over their feeds while the

Bonus Episode: Listen, Learn, & Love

We are taking a season break, but wanted to share this bonus episode with Richard Ostler from the Listen, Learn, & Love Podcast. Richard’s podcast is all about amplifyin

Episode 15: Why You Should Leave

For the past three months, Kimberly and Kari have been tossing ideas back and forth about the good and bad in the LDS Church. This week, Kimberly makes her case for why K

Episode 14: Why You Should Stay

For the last two episodes of the season, Kari and Kimberly are going to try to convince each other why they should switch teams. This week, Kari presents her case for why

Episode 13: The "C" Word

CULT. It’s a word that gets thrown around a lot when it comes to religion, but what does it even mean? In this episode, Kimberly and Kari evaluate the LDS church, using S

Episode 12: It's OK to Disagree

In this episode of Coffee & Cocoa, the real-life mother and daughter dynamics come out. What starts as a lighthearted discussion about EFY and church youth culture trigge

Episode 11: How to Reconstruct Your Family After They've Deconstructed Their Faith

Maintaining family relationships can be difficult in the best of times, but when one or more family members decides to leave the faith that the family once shared, it can

Episode 10: How to Reconstruct Your Family After They've Deconstructed Their Faith part 1

If you are in the thick of trying to rebuild your family relationships after someone has gone through a faith transition, this is the episode you have been waiting for.

Episode 9: Same Experience, Different Words

What are we actually talking about when we talk about religion? Is it possible that we are just using different words to describe experiences we all have in common? In t

Episode 8: Making Space: LDS + LGBTQ+

What actually changes people's minds about the queer community? Not arguments. Not policy debates. Not conference talks. It's the minute you know someone you love is quee

Episode 7: The Sin Next to Murder

In this episode, Kari and Kimberly take on purity culture. They talk about what they were taught about sex growing up in the LDS church and the lasting damage that sexual

Episode 6: Twilight and the Afterlife

Just a note before you listen: we do use the word "Mormon" a lot. We both grew up using the word and Kimberly left the church before 2018 when President Nelson gave his l

E5: Love Is Not Control

Estrangement. It's the word nobody wants to say out loud, and the reality too many LDS families are quietly living. In this episode, Kari and Kimberly get into what actu

E1: The Secret Third Option

Most LDS parents of children who have left the church are searching for one thing: how to bring their children back. Kari and Kimberly offer something better.   In this

E4: Any God Worth Worshipping

After the last two episodes of telling their stories, Kari and Kimberly return to the present. What do they actually believe now, and where do they agree and disagree? K

E3: Kari's Story

Content note: This episode contains references to suicidal thoughts. Please take care of yourself as you listen.   Last week, Kimberly told her story. This week, it's K

E2: Kimberly's Story

  Content note: This episode contains references to sexual assault and suicidal thoughts. Please take care of yourself as you listen.   In this episode Kimberly tells

Introduction to Coffee & Cocoa

What do you get when a lifelong LDS mother and her daughter who left the church sit down to talk honestly about faith, family, and everything in between? Coffee and Cocoa