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Buy the Numbers

by Mike Payne

A deep dive into the financials of running a Manufacturing business.

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Profitable but Broke? Why Your Shop Needs a 13-Week Cash Flow Forecast | Ep. 58

What good is a record quarter if you can't make payroll? It's an uncomfortable question, especially when your shop is busy, your margins are healthy, and your financial s

Oct 29
53 min

Is Defense Work Worth It? The Hidden Costs + Untapped Opportunities for Machine Shops | Ep. 57

Defense manufacturing is supposed to be a massive opportunity for American machine shops. The government needs more domestic suppliers, existing weapons systems need repl

Oct 15
44 min

Are You Leading Your Shop—or Getting in Its Way? | Ep. 56

Nobody outworks me. If that's part of how you see yourself, this episode is going to sting a little. Greg Harrod's spent 30 plus years in and around manufacturing, and he

Oct 1
59 min

What Tribal Knowledge Is Actually Costing Your Shop | Ep. 55

Replacing an employee can cost anywhere from $10,000 to $40,000. But the real risk isn't just recruiting and training their replacement. It's everything that walks out th

Sep 17
49 min

Get Pre-Approved So You Can Buy That Machine at IMTS | Ep. 54

IMTS is about a week and a half out. Most people heading to Chicago are showing up with a shopping list, and the ones who aren't will still find something on the floor th

Sep 3
48 min

The $3,500 Apprentice Incentive: How to Claim Your Share of a $35.8 Million Fund | Ep. 53

There's $35.8 million sitting in a federal fund built to pay manufacturers for hiring and training apprentices, and most shop owners have never heard of it. It pays $3,50

Aug 20
38 min

Why You're Never too Small for an ERP, Ep. 52

Almost every shop owner I talk to has told themselves the same story at some point: we are too small for a real ERP, so we will keep running the business on the old syste

Aug 6
56 min

The 9 Numbers That Tell You If Your Marketing Is Working | Ep. 51

You spend money on a website, LinkedIn posts, maybe some email and a trade show booth, and then you ask the question every owner asks: is any of this actually working? Fo

Jul 23
55 min

The Owner Bottleneck: How Getting Out of the Way Can Double Your Shop's Value, Ep #50

Most shop owners believe the number on their business is locked in by their earnings. It isn't. Two shops with identical profit can sell for wildly different prices, and

Jul 9
53 min

Think Like a Buyer: How to Maximize Your Shop's Value Before You Sell

Most shop owners never sell a business before the day they actually sell theirs. You build something for thirty years, then one phone call later you're trying to figure o

Jun 25
1 h 00 min

Women, Purpose, and Pay: The Honest Conversation Manufacturing Needs to Have, Ep #48

Part two of a good conversation is where things usually get real. In this episode, I pick back up with Nush Ahmed and Brooke Laing from Sisterhood of Trades, and we get i

Jun 11
43 min

No Cap: Manufacturing's Generational Communication Breakdown, Ep #47

In this episode of Buy the Numbers, I sat down with Nush Ahmed and Brooke Laing for one of the more entertaining and eye-opening conversations I've had in a while. What s

May 28
45 min

The Real ROI of Automation: CapEx, Capacity & the Cost of Doing Nothing, Ep #46

Recorded live from the DN Solutions open house near Chicago, this special crossover episode blends the worlds of Buy the Numbers and Lights Out into one conversation abou

May 14
53 min

The PEO Playbook: How Small Shops Compete Like Big Employers, Ep #45

If you're like most shop owners, HR, payroll, and benefits are necessary evils—important, but far from the reason you got into manufacturing in the first place. Yet those

Apr 30
55 min

Breaking the Ceiling: Systems, Data, and the Truth About Scaling a Machine Shop, Ep #44

Breaking the Ceiling: Systems, Data, and the Truth About Scaling a Machine Shop, Ep #44 Manufacturing will humble you—no matter how good you get. I was talking with som

Apr 16
1 h 03 min

Trust First, Numbers Second: The Leadership Playbook Manufacturing Shops Are Missing, Ep #43

What actually makes leadership work in a manufacturing environment? Is it KPIs, lean systems, and dashboards? Or is it something far more human? In this episode of Buy

Apr 2
55 min

CMMC Is Coming — What It Means for Your Shop, Your Costs, and Your Customers, Ep #42

CMMC is no longer something manufacturers can afford to ignore. If you're doing work in the defense supply chain—or even thinking about it—this is quickly becoming a re

Mar 19
1 h 11 min

The Overlooked Expense: How Utility Assessments Can Unlock Hidden Savings, Ep #41

Most of the time on Buy the Numbers, we focus on revenue growth, margin improvement, cash flow strategy, or capital investments. But in this episode, we turn our attentio

Mar 5
48 min

Don't Just File the Return — How Smart Tax Planning Pays Off Over Time, Ep #40

Too many manufacturers treat taxes as a once-a-year compliance exercise. You gather the documents, sign the return, write the check, and move on. But the reality is that

Feb 12
45 min

The Cost of Quality — Why Getting It Right Is the Fastest Way to Get Paid, Ep #39

Quality is often treated like a cost center in manufacturing. Something we have to do to satisfy customers, auditors, or certifications. But in my experience, quality is

Jan 29
44 min

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What listeners say

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I’ve been a listener to Making Chips and Buy the Numbers for a while and always enjoy the natural conversations Mike and the other hosts have with their guests. Now I’ve had the privilege of being a guest on the show and appreciate Mike and his team even more. Mike keeps the content focused on what will serve his listeners the most and engages in a two-way discussion which I enjoy as a listener and as a guest. If you want to improve as a leader in your business, I highly recommend the show.

Greg Harrod · Sep 2026

Lots of guys who do what Mike does can be self-absorbed, trying to pontificate with every story they tell. Mike is different. He is all about his guests and his audience and that’s why I love to learn from him!

Nikodinho · Nov 2024

We are one episode in and Mike and Greg dropped some amazing and immediately usable insight in this episode—practical ways you can take your machine data and immediately use it to impact your bottom line. Subscribed and ready for episode 2!

Jen Dubose · Oct 2024

Companies can’t grow without good numbers. Numbers drive performance in every aspect of a business. Mike has deep experience in this domain and his show brings great insights that manufacturers can use to drive their business forward!

Machineshopdude · Oct 2024

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