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by Johnathan and April Perkins

Biracial, millennial, brother-sister duo, Johnathan and April Perkins, take part in candid conversation about racism, white people, and what to do next.

Latest episodes

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THEE Honorable JUSTICE Ketanji Brown Jackson

Johnathan & April celebrate nerd out and celebrate the occasion of Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first Black Woman to sit on the U.S. Supreme Court.

Jul 2 2022
23 min

Beware Performative Activism

Johnathan & April discuss a recent, nuanced example of performative activism and the very real risks these actions pose to Black, brown and Indigenous folks.

Apr 13 2022
25 min

Don’t Call Police, Just Stay Focused

Johnathan & April discuss the very real harm you calling police continues to inflict upon Black people.

Mar 3 2022
25 min

We’re Baaaaack!

Johnathan & April kick off their 4th season with announcements, updates, and an important challenge for listeners.

Feb 10 2022
12 min

Family Matters (Season 3 Finale)

In the Season 3 Finale, April and Johnathan open up about racism within their own extended family and give insight on how best to handle these difficult realities.

Jun 1 2021
51 min

The Trial of Derek Chauvin

Johnathan & April welcome their sister Jubilee to discuss the ongoing trial of Derek Chauvin and its implications on the Black community. The conversation gets very real.

Apr 13 2021
44 min

True Crime

Johnathan & April spend the entire episode in an intense discussion of the true crime genre and its intersection with race and white supremacy.

Mar 9 2021
42 min

Organizing in Biden-Harris' America with Ivette (JusticeLA) and Dahlia (WP4BL)

Johnathan & April breathe a sigh of relief following the Biden-Harris inauguration, then explore antiracist organizing with founders of JusticeLA and White People 4 Black

Feb 2 2021
1 h 14 min

Two Discussions: Reparations + Gen Z activism

Johnathan & April discuss America's refusal to even entertain the notion of reparations, then dive deep into the life of three Gen Z student-activists with friends of the

Jan 12 2021
1 h 14 min

Racial Resolutions for 2021

Johnathan & April discuss their Racial Resolutions for 2021, then enjoy a fascinating and informative conversation with poet, activist, and self-proclaimed void-filler Je

Dec 20 2020
1 h 01 min

Implicit Bias 101 with Jerry Kang

Johnathan & April dedicate the entire episode to exploring implicit bias, sharing real-world examples and the harms that stem from them. They then take a deep analytical

Nov 23 2020
1 h 02 min

Mental Health in 2020 with Dr. Nicole Green

Johnathan & April discuss Black trauma and mental health in the workplace, then explore a fascinating conversation with Dr. Nicole Green, Executive Director of UCLA Couns

Oct 26 2020
1 h 01 min

Say Her Name with Brittany Packnett Cunningham

On their Season 3 premier, Johnathan & April catch up on the challenges of summer 2020, then dive into a packed conversation about Breonna Taylor, the election, activism,

Oct 5 2020
1 h 27 min

Introducing Roots to Revolution!

Johnathan & April dedicate this special bonus episode to speaking with the three founders of Roots to Revolution, an online history courses for all ages that teaches un-w

Sep 20 2020
35 min

It's a Family Affair! (Season 2 Finale)

In the Season 2 Finale, mom Nancy and sister Jubilee join Johnathan & April in a lively discussion on a variety of issues including COVID-19; the #BlackLivesMatter Moveme

Jul 13 2020
1 h 29 min

Black Lives Matter Goes Mainstream

Johnathan & April discuss how they see white people finally responding to the outcries of racial injustice, following the public lynchings of George Floyd and so many oth

Jun 22 2020
33 min

Karens & Killer Kops

Johnathan & April define "Karens" and discuss the recent attempt on Christian Cooper's life in New York's Central Park, then dive into the tragedy of and People's respons

Jun 1 2020
1 h 08 min

N-Word, Please

Johnathan & April discuss white people's opinions on the n-word, then enjoy an intense discussion of law, politics and Trump with foreign policy, national security, and p

May 17 2020
1 h 28 min

We Run with Ahmaud (explicit)

Johnathan & April share their thoughts on the lynching of Ahmaud Arbery.

May 10 2020
29 min

Pandemic: The Racial Implications of COVID-19

Johnathan & April dedicate the episode to parsing through the numerous risks and harms black and brown people are experiencing as a result of the coronavirus pandemic.

Apr 28 2020
54 min

What listeners say

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Your guest was an amazing voice of empowerment for Black women, particularly Black writers, poets and performers. I was enthralled by her story. And her reading of her poem “I Can’t Breathe”? Profoundly moving, emotional and powerful. I love Jessica Care Moore.

Maggiemagnolia · Dec 2020

I keep finding myself coming to this podcast while I cook or work with my hands at home. I keep finding myself laughing, cringing, nodding my head, shaking my head, agreeing, reassessing, feeling challenged, feeling connected. That’s a lot from one podcast!

G-Duggan · Jul 2020

I love the way April and Johnathan bring really relevant and personal topics to each episode. I love how they honor each other whether they agree or disagree. My knowledge and understanding, as a white woman, about my whiteness has been a real benefit to my life. I think what captivated me to listening to this podcast was the fact that they are from a biracial family. As a mother of biracial children, Indian American and white, I understand while their experience is different than my children, I feel I have a lot to learn and understanding. I will never be able to walk in their shoes. Thank you April and Jonathan for another great season of Black&! Sarah N

sarah narayana · Jul 2020

This show is no nonsense, informative, and above all, powerful. As a non-Black Chicana, this show helps me to reflect on the I uphold white supremacy. I've learned Anti-racism is a lifelong process, and so I am glad I have resources-such as this show-to keep me accountable. Thank you so much for your show!

NHerrera55 · Jul 2020

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