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Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

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Journalist and bestselling author Michael Lewis explores the figures in American life who rely on the public's trust, whether in sports, in business, in the courtroom, or on TV. What happens when that trust erodes and we can no longer agree on what's fair and what's not? Get your copy of The Big Short audiobook, narrated by Michael Lewis, on Audible, Spotify, Apple Books, pushkin.fm/bigshort or wherever you get audiobooks.

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Out Now: Blockers | Michael Lewis's New Audiobook

My new audiobook, Blockers, is out now! Get the audiobook now exclusively at blockers.fm. And stay tuned for an upcoming Blockers companion series right here on Against t

Oct 6
6 min

How Warren Buffet Built His Legacy By Finding Value No One Else Could See from Business History

With the news of Warren Buffett stepping down as chairman of Berkshire Hathaway, we are revisiting an episode from our two-part series on Buffet. Warren Buffett rose fr

Sep 18
44 min

Blockers: A New Audiobook from Michael Lewis

Exciting news! I have an all new book coming out on October 6th: BLOCKERS. You can pre-order your copy of the audiobook exclusively at blockers.fm. The hardcover is avail

Jun 4
1 min

Live with Nicolle Wallace

Recently, Michael Lewis spoke with Nicolle Wallace, host of the podcast The Best People, at Symphony Space in New York. They discussed what it was like re-visiting the Bi

Dec 16 2025
43 min

Michael Burry Speaks

Of all the characters in The Big Short, fund manager Michael Burry (depicted by Christian Bale in the movie version) seemed the least likely to grant Michael Lewis a foll

Dec 2 2025
39 min

How the Financial Crisis Broke Politics

To wrap up our series on The Big Short, Michael Lewis speaks with two people who represent two very different responses to the financial crisis of 2008: US Senator Elizab

Nov 25 2025
44 min

How the Financial Crisis Broke Wall Street

To make sense of Wall Street’s hangover from the crash described in The Big Short, Michael Lewis calls up Matt Levine. Levine is author of the Money Stuff newsletter for

Nov 18 2025
34 min

Lessons of the Great Depression

Andrew Ross Sorkin writes the business and policy newsletter DealBook for the New York Times and is co-anchor of Squawk Box on CNBC. He also has a historical bent, and ha

Nov 11 2025
38 min

Lender of Last Resort

When Michael Lewis wrote The Big Short, there was an extra character in the story: The Federal Reserve System, the central bank of the US, which bought up bad debt on the

Nov 4 2025
48 min

The FrontPoint Boys

The Big Short is centered around the story of investment advisors who noticed something was seriously wrong with the subprime housing market starting in the early 2000s.

Oct 28 2025
26 min

The Short Sellers

Michael Lewis speaks with Greg Lippmann, formerly a bond trader at Deutsche Bank, made famous when he was portrayed by Ryan Gosling in the movie version of The Big Short.

Oct 21 2025
26 min

Michael Lewis Interviews His Producer

Against the Rules producer Lidia Jean Kott is the host of a new podcast series called The Chinatown Sting. It’s about a group of unlikely suspects at the center of a mass

Oct 18 2025
25 min

Adam McKay is Still Angry About 2008

When Adam McKay decided to make a movie based on The Big Short, he was mainly known for his comedies. But he managed to get a bevy of star actors — among them Ryan Goslin

Oct 14 2025
40 min

The Big Short is Big Back

Back in 2008, Michael Lewis started paying attention to Wall Street again, as banks and investment funds started to announce massive losses. Fifteen years ago, he publish

Oct 7 2025
3 min

Sen. Richard Blumenthal on the SAFE Bet Act

Is anyone trying to regulate sports gambling on the federal level in the US? In the fall of 2024, Connecticut Democratic Senator Richard Blumenthal introduced a bill with

Feb 11 2025
29 min

Dr. Laurie Santos on Group Psychology, the Teen Brain, and Happiness

Michael Lewis invites over Yale psychology professor Dr. Laurie Santos, host of The Happiness Lab at Pushkin, for a chat about what scientific research has to tell us abo

Feb 4 2025
29 min

Natasha Schüll on the Antisocial Lure of Gambling

As an anthropologist, Natasha Schüll spent more than a decade doing field work in Vegas casinos, especially among the slot machine addicts. She tells Michael Lewis why ma

Jan 28 2025
30 min

Episode 10: “Anybody Can Win, but Everybody’s Gonna Lose”

Perhaps you have someone in your life who’s prone to sports gambling. Michael Lewis has someone. So he comes up with a scheme to “inoculate” his 17-year-old son against t

Jan 21 2025
46 min

Episode 9: Framing the Gambler

Michael Lewis gets a glimpse of sports gambling's future by talking with writers in Great Britain and Australia, where the industry is even more entrenched. But the US ha

Jan 14 2025
29 min

Episode 8: The Integrity Landscape

Has betting based on inside intel on games gone down since sports gambling was legalized in the US? Not really, as Michael Lewis finds out. But what's gone up is misery f

Jan 7 2025
38 min

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I can listen to Michael Lewis talk to and about anyone and anything he’s interested in. The way his mind works out a question, how he gets his subjects to talk straight, his own curiosity and delight in discovery… he’s never not compelling. And the arc of all seasons as a whole is so satisfying. I try to save the episodes to binge on three at a time, and they are EVERGREEN. Bravo to Team ATR.

@TheGirlPie · Oct 2024

As someone who is overly familiar with courtrooms, and sometimes takes it for granted that others are as well, JL does an incredible job of describing things to people who aren’t and gives great insight into the intricacies and nuances of criminal courts and especially criminal Trials, from jurors nodding off to picking up on the spin both side’s lawyers are trying to put on things , it was very impressive and a great Listen. By the way, it’s not Lewis’ job to play the role of the SEC/FBI/Justive Department, and having sympathy for a person about to spend decades in prison doesn’t make you a bad person, it makes you a person.

tgsblazers · Jul 2024

Only bummed I didn’t discover this sooner. Big Pushkin fan and even bigger M. Lewis fan. Absolutely loved the BTS and real life interviews and insights of such a game changing book. Didn’t know Liars Poker was such a big deal. I, too left a life of Wall Street for something else.

JT Akers · Mar 2024

This review is specifically about Season 4, Judging Sam. It’s unfortunate that Lidia Jean is only credited as “court reporter” because honestly she did a fantastic job covering the trial, conveying both the facts but also the sentiment and nuance of the proceedings. They should have just made her the host and let her run with it. The weakest episodes were actually when Michael Lewis was in court, in which he took a “no facts, just vibes” approach to reporting.

Three ducks in a trench coat · Nov 2023

I once loved this podcast. Michael Lewis and the team did a great job for three seasons. This fourth however is pretty much unlistenable. A decent portion of the blame falls on the new reporter whose voice is a challenge and writing weak, but also the overall composition of the whole season feels sloppy. Seems like Pushkin’s more focused on commercials than content these days.

Callahansfeedstore · Feb 2024

I have listened to many, many white collar crime podcasts. I followed the story of Theranos from the very beginning. And as someone who is deeply familiar with this genre - don’t burn your time on this podcast. The main host/book author seems sympathetic to SBF in a way that hinders an objective reporting. For example, the host actually tried to say SBF borrowed and gambled customer money without permission which is not, apparently, the same thing as stealing. Which … interesting. Ultimately, this podcast sounds like a privileged man defending another privileged man as a quirky guy who just made some big mistakes. I’m not calling for SBF to be painted as some devil - he is a nuanced human like anyone else. But we live in a deeply hurting world where people are fighting to have basic rights, food, heating, safety. And there is something absolutely intolerable about hearing sympathetic arguments for a reckless billionaire whose companies destroyed the savings and livelihoods of so many people.

TidalWave13 · Nov 2023

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