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WHAT IF WE GET IT RIGHT?

by Ayana Elizabeth Johnson

A show about climate solutions, about what we need to do to address the climate crisis, and how to make those things happen — from changing laws, to electrifying buildings, to improving fashion and media. Each week an expert guest joins host Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson to break it down, delightfully, and help us all envision what getting right on climate looks like, so we can reel that vision into reality. ayanaelizabeth.substack.com

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Rewind: Connecting the dots on climate and democracy 🔄 with Stacey Abrams

First, happy 2nd birthday to What If We Get It Right?: Visions of Climate Futures (the book version). Thank you for welcoming it into the world so warmly (NYT bestseller!

Sep 17
32 min

Clean energy super PAC says “don’t mess with solar” ☀️💰, with Tom Matzzie

The clean energy industry is getting aggressive, Super PAC style. And, honestly, it’s pretty exciting. Our guest this episode is Tom Matzzie, founder and CEO of Clean Ch

Sep 15
54 min

How the climate movement can build political power 🌎💪🏽 with Nathaniel Stinnett

The environmental movement has a voter turnout problem: 11.2 million environmental voters did not vote in the 2024 election. Over 11 MILLION! That’s over half of the peop

Sep 10
42 min

Climate hushing, EVs 🔌 and creating “The Carbon Wave,” with Leah Stokes

Welcome to Season 5 of What If We Get It Right? 💫 While it may seem counterintuitive given the electoral subject matter, Bill McKibben and I are having a blast gabbing wi

Sep 8
50 min

Trailer: Ayana and Bill McKibben are teaming up as podcast co-hosts! ✨

Season 5 of the What If We Get It Right? podcast is dedicated to environmental issues in the midterm elections — what’s at stake and how the planet can win. We are going

Aug 31
1 min

On reciprocity, photosynthesis, and berries 🍓 with Robin Wall Kimmerer

Earlier this month at College of the Atlantic, I was over the moon to speak alongside the one and only Robin Wall Kimmerer, botanist, teacher, Earth lover and legendary a

Aug 25
51 min

What climate leadership looks like in Maine 🌲, with Hannah Pingree

This conversation had an odd effect on me. I found it... relaxing? To hear a politician speaking competently, calmly, clearly, practically and with nuance about climate p

May 21
1 h 04 min

Climate Wayfinding 🧭 with Dr. Katharine Wilkinson

Today’s conversation is a special one. I’m joined by someone who’s been a collaborator and a dear friend in this work: Katharine K. Wilkinson. And tomorrow, May 5th, is

May 4
59 min

An Ocean Love Story 🐠

In the spirit of the What If We Get It Right? paperback launch, sharing an excerpt of the audiobook. The heart of this audiobook is 20 interviews with people who have sha

Apr 17
29 min

Rewind: That time we made a Climate Variety Show. 🤪

Back in September 2024, on the day my book What If We Get It Right? was published, I did one of the most absurd and delightful things I’ve ever done. I co-hosted an over-

Apr 3
34 min

For the love of nature, culture, and the future 💖 with Dr. Heidi Roop

Hello Earthlings, we are back with a new episode of the What If We Get It Right? podcast. This is the first episode of Season 4, which will be a short season — maybe 6 ep

Mar 13
35 min

Winning the narrative battle 🎥, with dream hampton

Hello Earthlings! Welcome back to What If We Get It Right? While you and I know that we already have most of the climate solutions we need — it’s more a matter of how qu

Dec 23 2025
34 min

Earth is our only shareholder 🌏, with Patagonia CEO Ryan Gellert

What if businesses got creative to unleash funding, political influence, and cultural clout to address our environmental challenges? What if corporations were driven not

Dec 12 2025
1 h 02 min

The Current Politics of Food and Farming 👨‍🌾 with Dave Herring

About a third of our climate problem is caused by agriculture and land use. So, what are we gonna do about it? One key solution is shifting to regenerative agriculture,

Nov 21 2025
44 min

How to deal with the heat 🌎🥵 with Jainey Bavishi and Jeff Goodell

Today’s episode is all about HEAT, that climate change bummer from which so many other impacts ripple out. The Earth is hotter now than at any other point in all of human

Nov 14 2025
1 h 03 min

How do you convince a room full of influential people to care about climate change… in 6 minutes? 🎤

Last week, I received the TIME Earth Award at the TIME100 Next gala. I worked really hard on my acceptance speech because it was an opportunity to recruit those 100 cultu

Nov 7 2025
9 min

Climate hushing, fart jokes, and love. 😝 John Marshall on how to market climate action.

For those of us trying to advance climate solutions (go team!), there’s always the question of how to be more impactful, how to bring more people along with us into this

Nov 2 2025
46 min

Presenting — Sabotage: The Splat 🥫🖼️

Almost exactly three years ago (Oct 14, 2022) a couple of climate activists hurled tomato soup at Vincent Van Gogh’s painting “Sunflowers.” It got a whole bunch of press.

Oct 24 2025
37 min

What now for climate law? ⚖️ Abigail Dillen has answers.

This week I’m chatting with environmental lawyer Abigail Dillen, president of Earthjustice, a nonprofit law firm whose tagline is “because the Earth needs a good lawyer.”

Oct 17 2025
49 min

Climate Change vs. Coffee, Wine, and Chocolate ☕️🍷🍫 with Sam Kass

Food is a major driver of our environmental problems. It uses ~38% of Earth’s land, drives ~70% of our water use, and emits ~22-34% of our greenhouse gas pollution global

Oct 10 2025
44 min

What listeners say

A curated, balanced selection of Apple Podcasts reviews.

Highly recommend for anyone looking to learn more about the exciting field of climate solutions. She brings great guests and a much needed dose of optimism and humor. Keep em coming!!!

Benihana H. · Jun 2025

What would we have ever done throughout history without the dreamers of a better future? That’s what you’ll find in your ears, coming from informed thought leaders - the incredible community Dr Ayana Johnson has spent her effervescent life building. What an offering. I love these conversations, explorations and souls. A light in the dark.

Weird_Sister · May 2025

Love this show! Am so glad that stories from the book continue. Climate solutions discussions with an accessible, positive focus are priceless! Dr. Johnson is my favorite podcast host!!

Kathi BK · May 2025

I find it hard to be hopeful when it comes to climate change and the future, but Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson helps me to do just that. Her guests’ expertise run a wide range, and their conversations help me to choose action over despair.

CreamBoat · Apr 2025

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