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The Long Game with Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer

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The Long Game is a weekly national security podcast hosted by Jake Sullivan, President Biden’s National Security Advisor, and Jon Finer, his Principal Deputy—senior aides who sat in on the classified Presidential Daily Brief each morning and translated raw intelligence into policy advice. Each week, Jake and Jon will pull back the curtain on how power really works helping you make sense of the national security stories unfolding today. Part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

Latest episodes

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Dwarkesh Patel: AI Could Overthrow The Government

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Backlash against AI and data centers helped fuel Democrats sweeping midterm victory last week. As AI promises to reshape geopolitics and national security, Jake and Jon s

Nov 12
58 min

Trump After the Midterms: Iran, China, and the Limits of Power

New York Times reporter Jonathan Swan, co-author, along with Maggie Haberman, of the bestselling book Regime Change: Inside the Imperial Presidency of Donald Trump, joins

Nov 5
1 h 10 min

Trump’s Russia Deals, Musk’s Starlink Leverage, and Ukraine’s Hardest Winter Yet

Michael Kofman, defense analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, returns to The Long Game as Russia intensifies its bombardment of Ukraine and decisions

Oct 29
1 h 00 min

Israel Votes. What Changes?

Israelis are preparing to vote in their first election since the October 7 terrorist attacks. Barak Ravid, global affairs correspondent for Axios, joins Jake and Jon to d

Oct 22
1 h 14 min

A Diesel Deal With Russia, a Dilemma for NATO, Houthis Escalate Saudi Arabia Attacks

President Trump has struck a diesel deal with Russia as fuel prices squeeze Americans. But what does easing restrictions on Russian exports mean for Ukraine and for effor

Oct 15
1 h 16 min

How China Changed the Oil Market—and the Iran War

Javier Blas, Bloomberg Opinion’s energy and commodities columnist, joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to explain why the Iran war has produced an oil market few expected:

Oct 12
1 h 12 min

Anne Applebaum on the Grifters and Ideologues Reshaping US Foreign Policy

Anne Applebaum, Pulitzer Prize-winning author and staff writer at The Atlantic, joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to discuss how far-right ideology and private profit hav

Oct 1
1 h 03 min

The U.S.–China Relationship Is Moving in Two Directions

PHOTO CREDIT China experts Jessica Chen Weiss, David M. Lampton Professor of China Studies at Johns Hopkins SAIS, and Julian Gewirtz, fellow at Harvard’s Belfer Center

Sep 24
1 h 07 min

U.S. Intelligence Under Assault and the High-Stakes AI Race With China

Julia Curlee, a former CIA analyst and acting senior director at the National Security Council, joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to explain why she believes America’s in

Sep 17
1 h 19 min

25 Years After 9/11: Admiral McRaven’s Warning for America

25 Years After 9/11: Admiral McRaven’s Warning for America Retired Admiral William H. McRaven, former commander of U.S. Special Operations Command and Joint Special Oper

Sep 10
1 h 07 min

Iran’s “Economic D-Day” and the US-Canada Rupture

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent says the U.S. is entering “the endgame” with Iran, launching what he calls an “economic D-Day.” Closer to home, U.S.-Canada trade talks h

Aug 27
1 h 07 min

Corruption in a Shameless Age (with Patrick Radden Keefe)

Acclaimed investigative journalist and New Yorker staff writer Patrick Radden Keefe joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to discuss his new book, London Falling.  They disc

Aug 6
1 h 07 min

Can Europe Defend Itself Without America? Radek Sikorski on NATO & Ukraine

Polish Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Radosław “Radek” Sikorski joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to assess Europe’s security at a moment of growing strain in

Jul 30
1 h 01 min

Why Zelensky Fired His War Chiefs & Where Trump's Iran War Goes Next

Zelensky just fired his defense minister, his top general, and his prime minister in a single reshuffle — and thousands of Ukrainians poured into the streets. Jake Sulliv

Jul 23
53 min

Trump’s Election Playbook, Explained by Jocelyn Benson

Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to discuss the security of the 2026 midterm elections — just a day before President Trump’s p

Jul 15
1 h 02 min

Heather Cox Richardson on Democracy, Alliances, and America's Future

Historian and author of the “Letters From An American” newsletter Heather Cox Richardson joined Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to discuss the historical roots of today's pol

Jul 9
36 min

America at 250: A Net Assessment (w/ Robert Kagan)

As the United States approaches its 250th birthday, how should Americans assess the country's strength, its democracy, and its role in the world? Recorded live at the As

Jul 1
1 h 00 min

Timothy Snyder on Iran, Ukraine, and the Future of Freedom

Historian and “On Tyranny” author Timothy Snyder joins Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer to discuss the Iran war and ceasefire negotiations, the state of the Russia-Ukraine con

Jun 24
28 min

Did America Lose the Iran War? (w/ Ambassador Wendy Sherman)

President Trump says the war with Iran is over. But what exactly did the United States agree to? Ambassador Wendy Sherman, the lead U.S. negotiator of the 2015 Iran nucl

Jun 18
1 h 12 min

What the World Cup Reveals About Global Politics (w/ Franklin Foer)

As the World Cup kicks off, what can soccer tell us about the state of the world? Franklin Foer, author of “How Soccer Explains the World,” joins the show to discuss why

Jun 12
48 min

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The hosts have high level talks on current geopolitical/international political events and how the US administration navigates them (or doesn’t). They have lots of personal experience in these topics and it really shows in their discussions. They also have amazing guests who bring interesting and unique experiences to the discussion. This is my favorite political podcast, 5/5!

Alex43124 · Oct 2026

I have been listening to this podcast since it launched and I love it. Jake and Jon are two of the best minds on the topics of national security and foreign relations. Not only do I listen to the podcast but I always pay attention when either of them are brought in on NPR. Keep up the great work guys.

guitarorth · Oct 2026

My favorite podcast, always full of insight. Their coverage of the issues, balanced arguments, and engaging dialogue makes this something I recommend to everyone.

hiphoptater · Oct 2026

One of my favorite podcasts I never Miss an episode. Let’s be honest the news media doesn’t cover global issues very well. These two guys do a great job of covering issues relating to global national security as guys who worked in the NSA. But it’s just interesting.

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