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The Builders

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Whose imagination do you want to live in? In this new series, bestselling biographer Walter Isaacson sits down with the most consequential names in AI and tech to understand the futures they're racing to build. Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Alex Karp, Fei-Fei Li, Dario and Daniela Amodei, and more open up about their ambitions, what frightens them, how they think about humanity, and what drives them to build so big and so fast. The conversations are intimate, charming, and sometimes chilling. But mostly, they're impossible to dismiss. Because whether or not you agree with them, it's their imagination we're all starting to live in. ABOUT THE HOST Walter Isaacson is the bestselling author of biographies of Elon Musk, Jennifer Doudna, Leonardo da Vinci, Steve Jobs, Benjamin Franklin, and Albert Einstein. He is a professor of history at Tulane University and previously served as CEO of the Aspen Institute, chair and CEO of CNN, and editor of Time. He was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2023. IN THIS SEASON Elon Musk (Tesla, SpaceX, xAI) Peter Thiel (Founders Fund, PayPal, Palantir) Mustafa Suleyman (Microsoft AI, DeepMind) Dario Amodei and Daniela Amodei (Anthropic) and more! 

Latest episodes

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Alex Karp: Silicon Valley Broke Its Promise to America

To outsiders, Alex Karp seems an unlikely choice to lead Palantir. A philosopher by training, the billionaire co-founder has built his business at the intersection of int

Nov 10
49 min

Garry Tan Decides Who Gets to Build the Future

As the leader of Y Combinator, the startup accelerator behind Airbnb, Stripe and DoorDash, Garry Tan backs founders with the ambition to change how we live. Tan wants mor

Nov 3
39 min

After The Builders: On Dario & Daniela Amodei and Mustafa Suleyman

Episodes three and four of The Builders with Walter Isaacson explore two poles of the AI safety debate through interviews with Daniela and Dario Amodei, co-founders of An

Oct 30
47 min

Mustafa Suleyman: AI Should Serve Humanity, Not Replace It

As a co-founder of DeepMind, Mustafa Suleyman helped launch the modern AI race. Now, he’s challenging the way it’s being built. As CEO of Microsoft AI, Suleyman believes

Oct 29
52 min

Dario & Daniela Amodei: "This Is Gonna Determine the Fate of Nations and the Future of Humanity”

Dario and Daniela Amodei, the siblings behind Anthropic, left OpenAI to pursue a different, “more human” approach to the technology. Their promise is to put AI safety and

Oct 27
40 min

After The Builders: On Musk and Thiel

Curious how those chronicling Elon Musk and Peter Thiel are feeling about their appearances on The Builders? There's an episode of TechStuff for that.  Host Oz Woloshyn

Oct 23
50 min

Peter Thiel: “We Need to Hit the Accelerator As Hard As Possible” on AI

Peter Thiel has become one of the most mysterious and controversial figures in tech. He’s a visionary investor who recognizes transformative ideas before everyone else. B

Oct 22
58 min

Elon Musk: "Humans Won't Be in Control" When AI Becomes Smarter Than Us

Elon Musk has spent his career turning improbable ideas into companies that reshape the world. To some, the entrepreneur behind Tesla and SpaceX is an engineering genius

Oct 20
40 min

ON MUSK Episode Four: What is Musk's Legacy?

As a teaser to our upcoming series The Builders-- which kicks off with an interview with Elon Musk, we're re-airing our critically acclaimed 2023 podcast On Musk, Walter

Oct 17
44 min

ON MUSK Episode Three: Storytelling and Hot Takes

As a teaser to our upcoming series The Builders-- which kicks off with an interview with Elon Musk, we're re-airing our critically acclaimed 2023 podcast On Musk, Walter

Oct 16
45 min

ON MUSK Episode Two: Demons

As a teaser to our upcoming series The Builders-- which kicks off with an interview with Elon Musk, we're re-airing our critically acclaimed 2023 podcast On Musk, Walter

Oct 15
43 min

ON MUSK Episode One: Genius

As a teaser to our upcoming series The Builders-- which kicks off with an interview with Elon Musk, we're re-airing our critically acclaimed 2023 podcast On Musk, Walter

Oct 14
32 min

Coming Soon! The Builders

Whose imagination do you want to live in? In this new series, bestselling biographer Walter Isaacson sits down with the most consequential names in AI and tech to underst

Oct 6
2 min

What listeners say

A curated, balanced selection of Apple Podcasts reviews.

Often these tech CEOs are just talking into the abyss. To put them in conversation with each other paired with the incisive interview skill of Isaacson is a fascinating and important choice. What do we have to learn? And what do they need to see that they aren’t seeing now? Perhaps this is one step towards taking them out of the echo chamber of Silicon Valley and putting their opinions in perspective.

CXXW111 · Oct 2026

Well produced and highly thoughtful questions. We can’t afford to be overly cynical or dismissive of AI. We need to understand it better and understand the people behind them.

angelasiphone · Oct 2026

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