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Pop Fiction Women

by Carinn & Kate

In Pop Fiction Women we deep-dive into the complicated women of books, movies and TV shows, along with the women that bring them to life behind the scenes. Think Fleabag and Phoebe Waller Bridge, Normal People and Sally Rooney, and so much more. In each episode you can expect us to: * Break down the protagonist as we ask what makes her complicated? * Identify the best scenes, which can mean sweetest, funniest, or most badass. Anything we love. * Recount the cringiest scenes. The ones that make you squirm. Sometimes it’s self-sabotage, sometimes it’s growth, but it’s always part of the process of becoming our complicated selves. * Play arm-chair therapist in What’s Your Damage, Heather? An homage to the iconic line in Winona Ryder’s Heathers, we discuss how these characters got to be the way they are. * “What She Said” - the segment where we scour every essay and interview with the women behind the scenes and share some of our favorite first person quotes. Real life is as interesting as fiction here. * Look into our crystal ball and ponder where these characters are six months later and five years later. Typically, Kate gets very real and Carinn gets buck wild. * Provide a takeaway, aka that part in the podcast where we try to sound deep. We leave you with some parting wisdom, challenge each other with thought-provoking questions inspired by the work, and urge you to “stay complicated.”

Latest episodes

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Yosha Gunasekera & 'The Midnight Taxi': Debut Discussions

Yosha Gunasekera & 'The Midnight Taxi': Debut Discussions

Feb 10
44 min

Marisa Walz & 'Good Intentions': Debut Discussions

Marisa Walz & 'Good Intentions': Debut Discussions

Feb 3
48 min

Wendy Walker & 'Blade': Complicated Conversations

Wendy Walker & 'Blade': Complicated Conversations

Feb 1
43 min

Rachel Taff & 'Paper Cut': Debut Discussions

Rachel Taff & 'Paper Cut': Debut Discussions

Jan 27
50 min

Virginia Kantra & 'Anne of a Different Island': Complicated Conversations

Virginia Kantra Complicated Conversations

Jan 20
41 min

Yulin Kuang co-writer of 'The People We Meet on Vacation' on Netflix

Yulin Kuang co-writer of 'The People We Meet on Vacation' on Netflix

Jan 14
36 min

Jessica Cozzi & 'We've Hit Turbulence': Debut Discussions

Jessica Cozzi & 'We've Hit Turbulence': Debut Discussions

Jan 13
36 min

(500) Days of Summer: a near perfect movie, just not the one you want it to be

(500) Days of Summer: a near perfect movie, just not the one you want it to be

Jan 4
1 h 15 min

Amy Meyerson & 'The Water Lies': Complicated Conversations

In today’s Complicated Conversations, Kate chats with internationally bestselling author Amy Meyerson about her first work of psychological suspense, The Water Lies, a gr

Jan 1
38 min

Alissa Lee & 'With Friends Like These': Debut Discussions

In this episode of Debut Discussions, Alissa Lee shares her journey from a successful legal career to becoming a published author with her debut thriller, With Friends Li

Nov 4 2025
45 min

Vanessa Lillie & 'The Bone Thief': Complicated Conversations Series

In today’s Complicated Conversations we chat with Vanessa Lillie about her new novel, The Bone Thief, which is book two in her Syd Walker series. We discuss her journey a

Nov 2 2025
46 min

Nobody Wants This Season 2 Recap: This is How You Choose Love Over Life

Nobody Wants This Season 2 Recap: This is How You Choose Love Over Life

Oct 30 2025
53 min

Rebecca Baum & 'The Brood': Complicated Conversations Series

In this episode of Complicated Conversations, we welcome back Rebecca Baum to discuss her latest novel, The Brood, a feminist body horror story that explores themes of ag

Oct 28 2025
35 min

Side bar on finding the right book at the right time and the controversy around eldest daughters

Do you believe that the right book finds you at the right time? On this side bar we discuss how we each found the perfect book to deal with our emotional hangovers from t

Oct 21 2025
41 min

Apple TV's 'All of You' starring Roy Kent/Brett Goldstein and Imogen Poots

“Made for you might not be meant for you.” With a tagline like that, and a nuanced, realistic script about the brutal nature of love, connection and personal growth, it’s

Oct 5 2025
1 h 27 min

'Materialists' & Celine Song

In this episode we finally deep dive into Materialists, Celine Song’s follow-up to her Oscar-nominated movie, Past Lives (which we also covered - go check that out too!).

Sep 28 2025
1 h 13 min

Laura Goode & 'Pitch Craft" : Complicated Conversations Series

In today’s Complicated Conversation, we chat with Laura Goode about her book, Pitch Craft: The Writer’s Guide to Getting Agented, Published, and Paid. This book is  a mus

Sep 21 2025
48 min

The Summer I Turned Pretty Season 3 Finale

The Summer I Turned Pretty Season 3 Finale

Sep 17 2025
40 min

Sidebar on L.O.V.E second chances and reversing the prophesy from Taylor Swift and TSITP

Sidebar on L.O.V.E second chances and reversing the prophesy from Taylor Swift and TSITP

Aug 31 2025
46 min

Samantha Downing & 'Too Old For This': Complicated Conversations Series

In today’s Complicated Conversations, we welcome bestselling author Samantha Downing to discuss her latest novel, Too Old For This, a story about a wickedly funny female

Aug 26 2025
33 min

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