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Not True, But Useful... A Cheek by Jowl Podcast

by Cheek by Jowl

Join Cheek by Jowl's Artistic Directors Declan Donnellan and Nick Ormerod in 'Not True, But Useful…' a podcast series all about theatre, acting, directing, and life. Produced, hosted and edited by Lucie Dawkins, with additional support from Cheek by Jowl. Series theme music by Pavel Akimkin (Series 1) and Paddy Cunneen (Series 2, 3 and Bonus Episodes). Read the Edited Transcripts of Series 1 here: www.cheekbyjowl.com/learning/edited-podcast-transcripts/

Latest episodes

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Series 5, Episode 5: Separate Demons

Oct 3 2022
20 min

Series 5, Episode 4: Études and Explorations

Sep 12 2022
18 min

Series 5, Episode 3: The Central Question

Sep 5 2022
19 min

Series 5, Episode 2: Advice to Self

Declan and Nick think about advice they give to themselves when they are making a play, and the problem of letting yourself get in the way of the work. Even after four de

Aug 29 2022
15 min

Series 5, Episode 1: Verse and the Big Lie

Aug 18 2022
21 min

Series 4, Episode 12: Time

Time is never the character’s friend - but this makes it useful to the actor. In this episode, Declan chats to Lucie about time in Shakespeare’s texts, and how there is n

Jun 6 2022
15 min

Series 4, Episode 11: Treacherous Exercises

Declan talks to Lucie about a question he can’t stand: can he share the exercises he uses in the rehearsal room? He urges directors to ask not for a technique, but for wh

May 27 2022
17 min

Series 4, Episode 10: Flow

Lucie talks to Declan about his favourite word in the rehearsal room: Flow. Flow is like love, like a football match, like a good evening spent with friends. For actors,

May 23 2022
13 min

Series 4, Episode 9: The Art of Forgetting Things

Declan presents an unusual piece of advice to actors: forget things. He talks to Lucie about how this allows the actor to be truly present as the character on stage, trus

May 16 2022
13 min

Series 4, Episode 8: Imposter Syndrome

Imposter syndrome is another longstanding problem that most actors face. For Declan, however, it is not unique to actors: the characters of Shakespeare’s plays all go thr

May 3 2022
19 min

Series 4, Episode 7: The Problem of Not Feeling

In this episode, Declan chats to Lucie about the age-old problem actors face of not ‘feeling’ what their character feels, and whether the character themselves might be fe

Apr 29 2022
15 min

Series 4, Episode 6: Oedipus

In this episode, Declan and Lucie discuss the transgression and intensity of Sophocles' classic tragedy, Oedipus. They talk about Declan and Nick's upcoming pro

Apr 22 2022
15 min

Series 4, Episode 5: Shakespeare and Love

In this episode, Declan and Lucie discuss the subject of love in As You Like It and Romeo and Juliet. They talk about the BBC Open University documentary on Cheek by Jowl

Jan 12 2022
19 min

Series 4, Episode 4: To Be Or Not To Be

Beginning with a reading of Hamlet, Declan dives deep into the universal themes of (non-)existence, futility, and being driven by the fear of anonymity. This episode cont

Jan 5 2022
18 min

Series 4, Episode 3: The Element of Surprise

In this episode, Declan and Lucie talk about the issue of heightened behaviour and the act of being surprised on stage and on screen. The music in this episode was compo

Dec 29 2021
17 min

Series 4, Episode 2: Body and Meaning

This week, Declan joins Lucie to discuss the limitations of language and how the body ought to be prioritised in the rehearsal space. The music in this episode was compo

Dec 22 2021
21 min

Series 4, Episode 1: Character Revisited

In this first episode of our winter mini-series, Declan revisits 'character', a much discussed subject, and questions how useful it may be in rehearsal to the a

Dec 15 2021
17 min

Series 4 Trailer...

We're back with some special bonus episodes for the cold winter months... Subscribe to 'Not True, But Useful...' on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you

Dec 10 2021
1 min

Series 3, Episode 9 - Extra Tagliatelle

To mark 40 years since our first ever touring production - The Country Wife -  we're delighted to release a bonus episode of Series 3. Declan and Nick join Lucie one

Aug 17 2021
19 min

Series 3, Episode 8 - Troilus and Cressida

Declan and Nick discuss Troilus and Cressida, Shakespeare's scathing anti-war satire on glory, chivalry and doomed love. Find out why the play is possibly the most u

Jul 16 2021
32 min

Chart trend

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#104
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17
days in the top 200 since Jul 2025

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#130 ▲ 20 Performing Arts US

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This podcast got me through the thickest bit of the pandemic, when, holed up in an apartment in Brooklyn, I dreamed nightly of labyrinthine backstages and under-rehearsed productions of massive classics. Once, returning from a trip to the grocery store (how anxiety-inducing those trips were, back in 2020/2021), I inadvertently burst into tears upon hearing the all-male warbling of “Sweet Lovers Love the Spring” in the “As You Like It” episode. I was so moved by the poignant sound of people joyfully and seriously playing pretend. I missed it so - missed witnessing it, and participating in it. I now listen to old episodes whenever I’m preparing to go onstage. In each episode, there’s always a piece of very useful wisdom that guides me towards the truth in my craft. Please, can we have more? We still need it.

KayBrooZayZay · Apr 2024

This is such a rich resource for theatre practitioners, particularly for those curious about cheek by Jowl’s work. Declan Donnellan provides the antidote to “getting it right” — a sickness endemic to contemporary theatre.

Sean the Silent · Oct 2022

I can’t believe what a wealth of information is just sitting here in the Podcast App. People would be fighting for a ticket to see these shows or to listen to these two give a lecture and I truly hope people do take advantage of these episodes. Please keep making them.

Rebeccabott · Jan 2021

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