Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

S4E21 - A conversation with David Bentler, author of Brotherhood in War & Peace

Where were you when the U.S. was at war, whether it was Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and, now, Iran? More importantly, how did you feel about where you were?  Lamar and T

S4E20 - Violence in the WNBA. What's going on?

A new version of an old Rodney Dangerfield joke: “I went to a women’s boxing match and a WNBA game broke out.” In the 30th season of the WNBA this seems to have been more

S4E19 - The Role of Humor in Conflict and Controversy - A Table Talk

Uh oh. The guys are back from their August break and they are ready to talk! Today Lamar and Tom respond to a listener’s question about the use of humor in conflict and c

S4E18 - A Conversation with Walt Michael of Common Ground on the Hill

Do you know how to combine music, traditional arts, and conversation to create a space where diverse groups of people come together to learn and share with one another? W

S4E17 Encore of But What Can I Do? (S4E5)

"But what can I do?” This is a question we are getting with greater frequency from our followers, listeners, and viewers. We’re going to try to answer that question…with

S4E16 Encore of A Table Talk on Democracy with Historian Joel Kauffman

What is the state of our democracy in the U.S. today? What does it mean to be a democracy? Lamar and Tom check in with historian Joel Kauffman on these and other question

S4E15 - A Conversation on Practical Kindness with Erica Marks

What’s the difference between being “kind” and “nice?” Are they mutually exclusive? Can you be both at the same time? Join us for a conversation with #BeHumankind practit

S4E14 - Lamar & Tom Talk Fine Art Photography

What is the difference between “fine art photography” and “taking pictures”? Nope, not your usual topic for our podcast. Plus, we’ve got pictures to share with you!  Lam

S4E13 - Happy 250th Birthday, USA!?!?

July 4, 2026 is the 250th Birthday of the United States of America. How are you planning to acknowledge this experiment in democracy that has lasted a quarter of a millen

S4E12 A Conversation with The Iowa Investigator

The Iowa Investigator tells 3-minute stories about his home state of Iowa. He has at least 85 thousand followers on TikTok and 31 thousand followers on Facebook and Insta

S4E11 - What's With Memorial Day?

Memorial Day is this week and today’s podcast features a Table Talk between Lamar and Tom about the meaning of Memorial Day and its origins. You may be surprised by what

S4E10 - A Table Talk on School Choice with Educator LaMonte Rothrock

Starting In 2027 the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (signed in 2025) enables scholarships for private school tuition, tutoring, and transportation for families with incomes u

S4E9 - Are We Making a Difference?

You know about earworms, right? It’s a piece of music that gets stuck in your brain and won’t leave you alone. (“Baaabeee shark…”) Sorry about that.  There are questions

S4E8 - A Table Talk on Democracy with Historian Joel Kauffman

What is the state of our democracy in the U.S. today? What does it mean to be a democracy? Lamar and Tom check in with historian Joel Kauffman on these and other question

S4E7 - 2nd Annual Oddly True for April Fools' Day

It’s Lamar & Tom’s Second Annual Oddly True for April Fools’ Day podcast! Here’s how it works. Each tells the other three stories ripped from the headlines that are odd b

S4E6 - Rumors of War

Have you ever felt disconnected from the decisions that shape our world?  Today Lamar and Tom are discussing the tragic loss of six Iowa National Guard members in Kuwait

S4E5 - But What Can I Do?

In this episode of Getting to 3rd Space, we are going to try and answer a question we are getting more frequently from friends, followers, listeners, and viewers: “But wh

S4E4 - A Conversation with Liz Weaver

Liz Weaver joins Lamar and Tom in this episode of Getting to 3rd Space to talk about collaboration, trust, and transitions. Liz retired recently from her role as Co-CEO o

S4E3 - Snoping Around

When you are wondering about rumors, conspiracy theories, folklore, fake news, and urban legends, who ya gonna call? Not us…but how about Snopes.com? Today Lamar and Tom

S4E2 - A Table Talk on Truth, Gaslighting, and the Death of Renee Good

An American citizen was shot and killed by an ICE officer in Minnesota. The video of the incident was clearly viewed by millions. The truth of what happened is not so cle