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Flying the Line

by Air Line Pilots Association, International

Recount an exciting chapter in aviation history and the beginnings of the Air Line Pilots Association, the world’s largest pilot union and nongovernmental air safety organization, through an abridged retelling of the book by George E. Hopkins, ”Flying the Line.” Volume 1 narrated by Corey Kuhn. Volume 2 narrated by Gina Leahy.

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Chapter 12 (Part 2)-”The TWA Strike of 1946”

The pilots of TWA struck over “the four-engine pay problem” and another pilots association threatens to cross picket lines. However in the midst of all this, ALPA Preside

Jul 13 2020
11 min

Chapter 12 (Part 1)-”The TWA Strike of 1946”

Advancements in aircraft design inevitably lead to increased efficiency and productivity. With TWA priding itself on being at the forefront of aircraft design and technol

Jun 29 2020
16 min

Chapter 11 (Part 2)-”Wartime!”

In the midst of the United States fighting a global war, ALPA fought to protect its pilots. With airline operators using wartime needs as an excuse to roll back flying li

Jun 15 2020
18 min

Chapter 11 (Part 1)-”Wartime!”

In the early years of its existence, ALPA made considerable gains in protecting pay and benefits for pilots flying the line. In addition to the gains in labor, ALPA also

May 19 2020
23 min

Chapter 10 (Part 2)-”Dave Behncke: An American Success Story”

Dave Behncke's path to becoming the founder and head of ALPA was not a direct one. While Behncke finally achieved the military assignment he had coveted, it was short-liv

Apr 29 2020
12 min

Chapter 10 (Part 1)-”Dave Behncke: An American Success Story”

Learn about the origins and story of ALPA's first president, Dave Behncke. Join us to retrace Behncke's journey from a small Midwestern farm to the head of one of the lar

Apr 6 2020
13 min

Chapter 9 (Part 2)-”The Rise and Fall of the TWA Pilots' Association”

The flight that killed U.S. Senator Bronson Cutting from New Mexico brought renewed scrutiny to the airline accident investigations process. Until this point, "pilot erro

Feb 29 2020
13 min

Chapter 9 (Part 1)-”The Rise and Fall of the TWA Pilots' Association”

Learn what chain of events led to the rise of one of the first airline-sponsored pilots' associations, the TWA Pilots' Association. Associations such as these often led t

Feb 10 2020
14 min

Chapter 8 (Part 2)-”Flying for a Rogue Airline”

Long and Harmon were essentially running a rogue airline that was refusing to abide by Decision 83, which was the National Labor Board edict that required pilots to be pa

Dec 20 2019
15 min

Chapter 8 (Part 1)-"Flying for a Rogue Airline"

ALPA's first president, Dave Behncke was determined to make sure that all airline pilots would be treated equally with the respect they deserved. But airline management w

Oct 2 2019
18 min

Chapter 7 (Part 2)-"Perils in Washington"

Expert maneuvering by ALPA's first president, Capt. Dave Behncke helped propel ALPA from a small lobbying group to the most respected voice for airline pilots in Washingt

Aug 30 2019
19 min

Chapter 7 (Part 1)-"Perils in Washington"

The early days of ALPA's presence in Washington were filled with political maneuvering spearheaded by ALPA's founder, Dave Behncke. Through ALPA's support of President Fr

Jul 29 2019
17 min

Chapter 6 (Part 2)-"The Trouble with E.L. Cord"

The Century Airlines Strike of 1932 was quite the spectacle during the early days of commercial aviation. Not only was it a pivotal event in the history of commercial avi

Jun 24 2019
15 min

Chapter 6 (Part 1)-"The Trouble with E.L. Cord"

E.L. Cord was the owner of Century Air Lines, but more importantly, his name was the rallying cry for organizing pilots in the 1930s. The Century Air Lines Strike of 1932

Jun 7 2019
15 min

Chapter 5 (Part 2)-"The Livermore Affair"

In this episode, we hear the conclusion of the Livermore Affair and learn how this tragedy set the groundwork for ALPA's critical role in setting high standards for aviat

May 17 2019
17 min

Chapter 5 (Part 1)-"The Livermore Affair"

In 1937, a young widow by the name of Lorna Livermore helped ALPA shed light on the practice of “pilot pushing” with the public for the very first time when she sued Nort

Apr 25 2019
14 min

Chapter 4-"The Airmail Pilots' Strike of 1919"

The Airmail Pilots' Strike of 1919 was one of the earliest organized actions taken by pilots. This 4-day strike led to concessions by Post Office management to eliminate

Apr 4 2019
15 min

Chapter 3-"Pilot Pushing"

This week, we’ll hear about how the deadly practice of “pilot pushing” played a huge role in Capt. David Behncke’s drive to organize his fellow brother pilots.

Mar 27 2019
14 min

Chapter 2-"Stepping on Toes"

This week, hear about the 24 "key men" who saw themselves as good "company men" but were labeled as "troublemakers" by their airline management. ALPA's Key Men faced much

Mar 5 2019
13 min

Chapter 1-'What's a Pilots' Worth?'

Feb 8 2019
14 min

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Very informative and interesting. Good lessons for Lacie and management both. I wish I could binge-listen to the whole book. Can't wait until the next episode.

grumpy777 · Apr 2019

Fly the Line is a must read for all pilots. If you don’t know history you are bound to repeat it. So many sacrificed so much for us to get were we are today, don’t let their hard work go to waste.

33years of flying the line. · May 2020

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