Decoder with Nilay Patel

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Adam Schiff on AI regulation, free speech, and impeaching Trump one more time

#32 trending · Business

California Sen. Adam Schiff sits on a bunch of the committees that do tech and AI oversight, so I really wanted to ask him about how we might regulate anything related to

Oct 5
58 min

The AI warnings are getting louder

Hey everybody, it’s Nilay. We’ve got a little bonus drop for you today — I was recently interviewed about AI safety by Shumita Basu for Apple News In Conversation, and I

Oct 3
36 min

How Utah locals fought Kevin O'Leary's AI data center

Today I’m talking with Josh Dzieza, a longtime features writer here at The Verge, about a massive data center in Utah that does not exist, might never exist, and yet has

Oct 1
44 min

The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's CEO

My guest today is Mike Cannon-Brookes, who is co-founder and CEO of Atlassian. Atlassian is one of those companies that every other company runs on — it makes important p

Sep 28
1 h 16 min

Can Cloudflare save the web from AI?

Cloudflare discovered in June that bots already make up more than half of internet traffic — and CEO Matthew Prince says that bots could outnumber humans a thousand to on

Sep 26
1 h 18 min

I have some questions for Mark Zuckerberg

It’s a big week for Meta. The company has its big Connect conference, and the new Muse AI agent appears to be an early hit. CEO Mark Zuckerberg has been doing a lot of in

Sep 24
23 min

Can John Ternus find Apple's next big thing?

Today, I’m talking with Bloomberg’s Mark Gurman, who is the world’s best-sourced Apple reporter. Earlier this month, Apple hosted its annual iPhone hardware event, and th

Sep 21
58 min

Does AI need an antitrust exemption so it doesn't kill everyone????

The biggest story in tech right now is the spiraling debate about AI safety and regulation. The CEOs of all these companies have issued various calls to slow down develop

Sep 19
46 min

Microsoft AI CEO says AI threats are real, and Anthropic is making it worse

Today, I’m talking with Mustafa Suleyman, the CEO of Microsoft AI. As you’re no doubt aware, the biggest story in tech right now is the spiraling debate about AI safety a

Sep 17
52 min

Adam Conover explains how YouTube ruined everything

Adam Conover is a familiar face to anyone who’s spent time on the internet. He got his start at CollegeHumor back in the day, before transitioning into cable TV with Adam

Sep 14
1 h 05 min

Why the current tech backlash feels different

We’re back with another Decoder mailbag special. This time, we focused on feedback to Nilay’s “software brain” video essay, our ongoing coverage of AI and Big Tech backla

Sep 10
54 min

How Sonos rebooted itself

My guest today is Sonos CEO Tom Conrad. Tom was on the board at Sonos during the disastrous 2024 app redesign that threatened to crash the entire brand, and he took over

Sep 3
1 h 13 min

New York Governor Kathy Hochul thinks AI should be ‘less evil’

It’s an election year, with a shocking amount of tech policy at stake, and Gov.Hochul has taken strong positions on almost every major tech issue there is. You'll hear us

Aug 31
51 min

OpenAI's executive exodus has one big winner

Today, I’m talking with Hayden Field, The Verge’s senior AI reporter, about some pure Decoder bait: the seemingly-endless org chart changes at OpenAI, and how all of them

Aug 27
40 min

How GoFundMe became America's backup plan

Tim Cadogan is CEO of GoFundMe, the for-profit platform where you can donate to help people with everything from medical expenses to little league uniforms to starting a

Aug 24
1 h 17 min

Welcome to the AI crisis in math

My guest today is Robert Hart, The Verge’s London-based AI reporter. Robert recently wrote a fantastic story for us about the debate raging inside the world of mathematic

Aug 20
40 min

It's about ethics in journalism, with Ben Smith

Today I’m talking to Ben Smith, the editor-in-chief of Semafor. Ben ran BuzzFeed News at the height of the Facebook traffic boom, and even wrote a book about it, called T

Aug 17
1 h 11 min

Does Google even want to win in AI?

My guest today is The Verge’s Hayden Field, and we’re discussing a question that’s been rocketing around the tech industry for the past week: Is Google losing the AI race

Aug 13
39 min

Bose CEO Lila Snyder on the fight for high-quality audio

My guest today is Lila Snyder, the CEO of Bose. Lila was last on the show about four years ago, and since then she’s dramatically rearchitected the company — she sold off

Aug 10
1 h 06 min

The left and right agree on one thing: no data centers

Our guest today is Gaby Del Valle, a policy reporter here at The Verge, and we’re discussing the growing backlash against AI data centers. Gaby recently reported a fantas

Aug 6
37 min

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What listeners say

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I thought this interview did a great job of explaining how the business works from the creators' agents' POV while flagging the threat that AI may pose very soon to creators.

PhillyGirl99 · Jul 2026

A podcast that talks about tech with normal people in mind? Who would have imagined such a thing could exist. It is refreshing to hear talk about tech take the social world into account instead of pretending it doesn’t exist. This podcast gives a way better perspective than most tech podcasts. The hosts care about “why” questions and not just bootlicking for billionaires

northshorestalker · May 2026

It’s incredibly satisfying to watch Nilay hold tech leaders accountable while delivering real journalism on the most important tech developments of this era. Truly a refreshing approach to get to the bottom of critical issues, and avoid the classic canned talking points. Excellent conversation, journalism, and tech reporting.

estuhldreher · Mar 2026

A great blend of business insights from top leaders and well researched policy implications. Bringing a tech savvy perspective to the modern political and business landscape.

ItsNevin · Mar 2025

Nilay has some great guests and topics, but it’s often worsened by his very apparent political bias. Would love if this was more independent and neutral

AMH238 · Jun 2025

Has a noticeable political bias the last few months, to the point that chunks of episodes are just rants. Unfollowed and lost a lot of respect for the journalistic integrity here with the latest Tesla protestor organizer interview. I learned nothing and felt dumber for listing. It was over-the-top whining, some outright wrong numbers and misinformation, and Nilay didn’t correct or pushback. He went right along with the guy, and Nilay’s questions were softballs. Very disappointed as it used to be a good show, but par for the course for the Verge content.

playermagic · Mar 2025

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