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Both Sides of the Aisle

by Utah Public Radio

Both Sides of the Aisle is a weekly debate over politics, policy and current issues facing the state of Utah, featuring voices representing the Right, the Center, and the Left.Representing Right is State Auditor John Dougall (R), on the Left is former Salt Lake County Councilwoman Shireen Ghorbani (D), and speaking for the “common sense middle” is Natalie Gochnour, an associate dean in the David Eccles School of Business and director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah. The show is produced by Anthony Scoma.Both Sides of the Aisle attempts to help you understand the important questions facing residents of this state, while proving that Republicans and Democrats can sit in a small room and have a meaningful conversation.

Latest episodes

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Congressional leadership candidates and 2026 midterm takeaways

#46 trending · Government

Natalie and John discuss the lessons from the midterm elections, the incoming federal and state legislative leadership, and potential areas for bipartisan compromise.

Nov 12
25 min

2026 blue wave election results

Our hosts discuss Democrats gaining control of both the House and Senate, historic firsts across the country, and what both parties should take away from this election cy

Nov 5
25 min

Israel, Obama, Trump, and the 2026 midterm election

Our hosts discuss the Israeli election, Obama and Trump on the campaign trail, and the completion of the $5 billion rebuild of the Salt Lake City International Airport.

Oct 29
25 min

Ukraine, Iran, midterm voting, and the cost of war

Our hosts discuss President Trump comments on Ukraine, the role the Iran War is playing in partisan politics, and Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson's appearance on "60 Minutes."

Oct 22
25 min

Blue wave likelihood, public executions, and Utah's congressional races

Our hosts discuss the likelihood of Democrats sweeping the 2026 elections, the economic concerns motivating voters, and how the death penalty is carried out across the U.

Oct 15
25 min

Katie Matheson and Alliance for a Better Utah

Shireen Ghorbani sits down with Katie Matheson, the new executive director of Alliance for a Better Utah, to discuss her background and goals for the political non-profit

Oct 8
25 min

United Nations, congressional races, and Sen. Curtis' corruption probe

Our hosts discuss China, Iran, Israel, critical midterm races to watch, and growing dissatisfaction with incumbent political leadership.

Oct 1
25 min

Education in Utah with Andrea Brandley

Our hosts sit down with Andrea Brandley, senior education analyst at the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute, to discuss how Utah's education system compares and how to impro

Sep 24
25 min

Trump's $5000 midterm enticement and the fight over mail-in ballots

Our hosts discuss record high diesel prices, Trump's promise of $5000 checks if Republicans win the midterms, and the federal investigation into Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson

Sep 17
25 min

Climate change, gender partisanship, and Utah's MLB bid

Our hosts discuss the pragmatic approach to climate change politics, whether or not the U.S. is "at war" with Iran, and takeaways from Gov. Cox's new book.

Sep 10
25 min

Nepal flooding, beef imports, Venezuelan oil, and Meta settlement

Natalie and Shireen discuss Trump's international trade policies, Meta's $17 billion child safety settlement, and the defining crises of Governor Cox's term in office.

Sep 3
25 min

New Iran sanctions, US-Canada trade war, and Flock cameras in Utah

Our hosts discuss the U.S. threatening Iran with an "economic D-Day," the record-breaking $40 trillion national debt, and out-of-state police accessing Utah's Flock camer

Aug 27
25 min

USS Lincoln, Cox's low approval, and polling on voter ID requirements

Our hosts discuss the morale of U.S. forces deployed in the Middle East, why incumbent approval is dropping in Utah, and the partisan split over voter ID requirements.

Aug 20
25 min

Iran War impacts, AG Todd Blanche, and Utah Supreme Court candidates

Our hosts discuss how the Iran War has impacted military stockpiles and gas prices, the confirmation of a new U.S. attorney general, and who will fill the two vacancies o

Aug 13
25 min

War powers, Sens. McConnell and Graham, and Utah's energy future

Our hosts discuss an Iran war powers resolution's narrow failure, Sen. Mitch McConnell's disappearance, Sen. Lindsey Graham's death, and Utah's bid for a nuclear facility

Aug 6
25 min

Equality Utah

Shireen Ghorbani sits down with the leadership of Equality Utah to discuss the group's political advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights and protections in Utah.

Jul 30
25 min

Emma Addams and Mormon Women for Ethical Government

Our hosts sit down with the co-executive director for Mormon Women for Ethical Government and discuss the group's inception, national and statewide organizing, and its et

Jul 23
25 min

Professor Jacob Rugh

Shireen Ghorbani sits down with Jake Rugh, a BYU sociology professor, to discuss the unique politics of Utah and what they mean for the state's future.

Jul 16
25 min

Tim Hawkes, chair of the Great Salt Lake Advisory Council

Our hosts discuss the importance of the Great Salt Lake, the danger posed by its disappearance, and how water conservation can protect Utahns' health, environment, and ec

Jul 9
25 min

America 250

Our hosts discuss Independence Day traditions, U.S. leaders and icons, patriotism, and the meaning of the American dream.

Jul 2
25 min

Chart trend

Position in the Government chart (US), last 90 days.

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Chart positions

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What listeners say

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I’ve been faithfully listening to this show for the past 2 years. It has helped me so much, to become aware of local and national issues, galvanized me into action and voting, and helped me form my own opinions on sociopolitical views … all without the bickering and rage bait tactics that are unfortunately so prevalent. I have recently moved out of state and have yet to find a suitable alternative in my new state for such thoughtful programming that presents both sides and a moderate middle ground so effectively. So I keep coming back to this podcast even now. Two thumbs up, gold star, many thanks, 10/10 recommend :)

LittleBirdOnYourShoulder · Oct 2026

I love the dynamic of the hosts and guests in this show. They disagree without being disagreeable. Natalie is a wealth of wisdom. John is beings the experience. Shireen is the heart of the show.

Xyon Curtain · Oct 2025

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