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Government · Natalie Gochnour, Shireen Ghorbani, John Dougall

Both Sides of the Aisle

by Natalie Gochnour, Shireen Ghorbani, John Dougall

Both Sides of the Aisle is a weekly debate over politics, policy and current issues facing the state of Utah, featuring voices representing the Right, the Center, and the Left.Representing Right is State Auditor John Dougall (R), on the Left is former Salt Lake County Councilwoman Shireen Ghorbani (D), and speaking for the “common sense middle” is Natalie Gochnour, an associate dean in the David Eccles School of Business and director of the Kem C. Gardner Policy Institute at the University of Utah. The show is produced by Anthony Scoma.Both Sides of the Aisle attempts to help you understand the important questions facing residents of this state, while proving that Republicans and Democrats can sit in a small room and have a meaningful conversation.

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43
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Latest episodes

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Climate change, gender partisanship, and Utah's MLB bid

Our hosts discuss the pragmatic approach to climate change politics, whether or not the U.S. is "at war" with Iran, and takeaways from Gov. Cox's new book.

Sep 10
25 min

Nepal flooding, beef imports, Venezuelan oil, and Meta settlement

Natalie and Shireen discuss Trump's international trade policies, Meta's $17 billion child safety settlement, and the defining crises of Governor Cox's term in office.

Sep 3
25 min

New Iran sanctions, US-Canada trade war, and Flock cameras in Utah

Our hosts discuss the U.S. threatening Iran with an "economic D-Day," the record-breaking $40 trillion national debt, and out-of-state police accessing Utah's Flock camer

Aug 27
25 min

USS Lincoln, Cox's low approval, and polling on voter ID requirements

Our hosts discuss the morale of U.S. forces deployed in the Middle East, why incumbent approval is dropping in Utah, and the partisan split over voter ID requirements.

Aug 20
25 min

Iran War impacts, AG Todd Blanche, and Utah Supreme Court candidates

Our hosts discuss how the Iran War has impacted military stockpiles and gas prices, the confirmation of a new U.S. attorney general, and who will fill the two vacancies o

Aug 13
25 min

War powers, Sens. McConnell and Graham, and Utah's energy future

Our hosts discuss an Iran war powers resolution's narrow failure, Sen. Mitch McConnell's disappearance, Sen. Lindsey Graham's death, and Utah's bid for a nuclear facility

Aug 6
25 min

Equality Utah

Shireen Ghorbani sits down with the leadership of Equality Utah to discuss the group's political advocacy for LGBTQ+ rights and protections in Utah.

Jul 30
25 min

Emma Addams and Mormon Women for Ethical Government

Our hosts sit down with the co-executive director for Mormon Women for Ethical Government and discuss the group's inception, national and statewide organizing, and its et

Jul 23
25 min

Professor Jacob Rugh

Shireen Ghorbani sits down with Jake Rugh, a BYU sociology professor, to discuss the unique politics of Utah and what they mean for the state's future.

Jul 16
25 min

Tim Hawkes, chair of the Great Salt Lake Advisory Council

Our hosts discuss the importance of the Great Salt Lake, the danger posed by its disappearance, and how water conservation can protect Utahns' health, environment, and ec

Jul 9
25 min

America 250

Our hosts discuss Independence Day traditions, U.S. leaders and icons, patriotism, and the meaning of the American dream.

Jul 2
25 min

Iran, Cuba, the Reflecting Pool, and AI pushback

Our hosts discuss U.S. relations with Iran and Cuba, algae blooming in the Reflecting Pool, and how resistance to AI and data centers is reshaping Utah politics.

Jun 25
25 min

World Cup 2026, US-Iran memorandum, and Utah's new justices

Our hosts discuss the World Cup matches taking place across North America, the world's first trillionaire, and the cost of expanding the Utah Supreme Court.

Jun 18
25 min

Trump, ICE and CBP funding package, and the audit of Utah voter rolls

Our hosts discuss President Trump's attendance at the Knicks NBA Finals game, Congress's passage of a $70 billion funding package for ICE and CBP, and the results from th

Jun 12
25 min

Gas prices, America's 250th, and the 2024 Democratic post-mortem

Shireen and John discuss affordability, the rush to prepare for the United States' semiquincentennial, and the DNC's faulty autopsy of their 2024 presidential campaign.

Jun 4
25 min

Sarah Wright and Glade Sowards

Natalie Gochnour interviews Sarah Wright, CEO and founder of Utah Clean Energy, and Glade Sowards, senior energy and climate program manager with the Salt Lake City Corpo

May 28
24 min

Trump's China trip, a new Federal Reserve chair, and data center pushback

Our hosts discuss President Trump's trip to China, Kevin Warsh's plans to change the Federal Reserve, and the increasing state and local scrutiny of Utah data centers.

May 21
25 min

2026 Wilkes Climate Summit live show

Our hosts record live at the 2026 Wilkes Climate Summit and discuss data centers, water usage, energy demand, and climate solutions.

May 14
25 min

King Charles III, Box Elder County data center, and the Utah Supreme Court

Our hosts discuss the Republican Party's political strategy going into the midterm elections, the demise of Spirit Airlines, and the battle over a 63 square mile data cen

May 7
25 min

Attempted assassination, gerrymandering, and Utah party conventions

Our hosts discuss the failed assassination attempt on President Trump at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, the Democratic gerrymander of Virginia, and the results f

May 1
25 min

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