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Bingeing this podcast felt like sitting around with friends as they caught me up on some completely crazy happenings in their lives (how parasocial! lol). Throughout the episodes, I laughed, my heart raced, and my jaw dropped. I really enjoyed the structure of the series, from the documentary-style review of all the emails, forum posts, and clips, to the inclusion of the expert and PI, to the giddy risky-text energy of getting in contact with the culprit. I felt like I was in on the investigation with the group and was fascinated by the turn it took.
I was unfamiliar with Elizabeth, Andy, and Monica until heard about this podcast via Elizabeth’s guest appearance on The Deep Dive with June Diane Raphael and Jessica St. Clair. I found the trio to be a great team and I enjoyed the varied perspectives they brought to their reflections on these events.
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Ok…I did enjoy this podcast. But I have to say…the big reveal at the end seems like the podcasters got duped…again. Maybe it’s the difference between the podcasters seeing video of the “man” versus the audience only getting to hear the audio (as with the JFK v. Nixon debate where ppl had vastly different views on who won depending on whether they saw the debate on TV or listened to it via radio…I recall learning about that dynamic in college). But for me, it’s simply not believable that someone in the midst of a spiraling opioid addiction could craft such intricately detailed back stories of so MANY people, and keep it going without even a single mix up or mistake. I get that addicts are often skilled manipulators…but the complex & continuing backstories of so many characters who intersect, combined with the articulately written messages (esp the “manifesto” one), just defies all logic. Throughout the podcast, I wondered if the original suspect (a professor), was engaging in this behavior as a sort of case study or examination of human nature. I wondered if his end goal was to use the interactions & how far he could make people go in believing him, to write an article, book, or craft some sort of study, since he’s a professor after all. Or, perhaps he was just someone who likes to wield his powers of manipulation & dark psychology. But it’s strange that the PI came back with info pointing the finger at the professor (which makes sense just in terms of the intellectual bandwidth needed to create such an elaborate con), but we’re supposed to believe that it was the addict son, who literally admitted to living in his parents’ basement at the time (which seems a little too “on the nose” for me) bc he was in an opioid spiral? Also, how often do addicts living in someone’s basement send $1,000 to a podcast just because? I’m sorry…I just don’t buy it. And perhaps with the power of being able to see this man on video, the podcasters fell prey to further manipulative behavior. I’m willing to believe that the man is indeed the “son” based on the likeness he’s said to bare to his father. (Though I’d be interested in whether the podcasters confirmed this via social media perhaps). But I also believe that a professor who’s desperate to not be outted & ruin his career, could easily make his son do the interview to cover for him. After all, he didn’t need to discuss any particulars bc his “addict” story satisfied the podcasters that he wouldn’t be able to remember any particulars. How convenient. And the father, a man who perhaps engages in such duplicity was likely not father of the year so it’s not a stretch that he might use his son to cover for him. Just sayin.
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First episode is long and slow but hold on, it all makes sense in the last few minutes then you will be hooked.
I don’t usually listen to podcasts like this, a British podcast I listen to (Luanna the Podcast) recommended if you like a light hearted funny and relatable podcast*** - anyway the producer recommended this pod so I listened and it captivated me… so many twists and turns.
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This podcast was quite enjoyable to listen to. The situation was a serious one but how the information was shared and discussed really made it feel relatable and human. The ending caught me by surprise but in the best way possible. It just displays the complexity of being human and one of the ways it could play out in a digital age.
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The entire time, they were ready to attack the catfisher (rightfully so), but it seemed like as soon as he professed his hatred for Trump, all was forgiven. Suddenly they were besties wanting to hug him. The tone completely changed. Had they found out on the Zoom call that he was right-leaning, they would have continued the narrative that he was a monster.
Also, I believe his tirades as Frank, posting things to make conservatives look horrible, were meant to further his agenda of making them look bad. It’s adjacent to when someone claims a racial crime happened against them, only for it to come out that the whole thing was faked to push a narrative. And conveniently, that part got glossed right over. Flip the scenario, a right-leaning person posing as a liberal and posting awful things to smear the left, and you know they would have been all over it.
For the record, I’m not a Republican or a Democrat. It doesn’t matter where you stand politically, just be consistent and call out bad behavior equally. That’s all I’m asking for. The hypocrisy is what I can’t stand.
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My fatal flaw is that I can’t give up on a story line. I will watch the most horrendous series just to get closure after starting it. That said, finishing this podcast took all of my strength. In fact, I didn’t listen to the final episodes after the “reveal”. I think this had the makings of an interesting story, but the total lack of structure and artistic presentation of information made it painful to endure. I began listening bc someone on IG rated this podcast 10000/10, and now I’m wondering if that person also loves root canals.
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