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We Are Spiraling

by Priya Anand

We talk about curly hair to learn more about our culture — from how we perceive ourselves to how the world sees us.  Priya Anand, an award-winning journalist whose work has been featured in Bloomberg, Businessweek, the Wall Street Journal, Buzzfeed and Politico, turns her investigative eye to her lifelong obsession: curly hair.  You might think: curly hair, how much is there to say? A whole podcast dedicated to this? I don’t want to hear someone ramble about all their hair lotions and potions!  But there is so much to unravel about why so many people hide their ringlets as secret curlies, how politicians who wear their hair curly are vilified and what Hollywood's hostility toward curls means for our society.

Latest episodes

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From Rumi To Today, Curly Hair Has Always Been Poetry

Throughout history, poets have, like me, been inspired to make curly hair a focus of their work. Curls have been used as a symbol of romance, charm and beauty. I share ve

Sep 17
5 min

Hair Is Political: Meet the Lawmaker Putting Hair on the Agenda

New York state implemented a law this year requiring cosmetology schools to teach students how to work with textured hair. We speak with state assemblywoman Michaelle C.

Aug 27
24 min

How'd You Find This Podcast?

Today’s minisode dives into how we think about making and growing this show with an audio version of a behind-the-scenes story originally shared on WeAreSpiraling.com. I

Aug 13
7 min

Why Are So Many People Secretly Curly: Part 2: Office Edition

There’s an unwritten dress code across corporate America: everywhere you go, there are secret curlies. We unpack why this isn’t just happenstance, just like how it’s not

Jul 31
6 min

How Your Hair Changes With Your Hormones

We unpack the powerful connection between your hormones and your hair through different stages of life with Dr. Jordan Emont, a board certified obstetrician-gynecologist.

Jul 23
36 min

'The Odyssey" Got Hair Wrong Vs Greek Mythology

We dig into Christopher Nolan's "The Odyssey," exploring Matt Damon's representation of Odysseus and Zendaya's Athena, and consider the role of hair in Gre

Jul 16
6 min

The Problem With Disney Erasing Moana’s Curls

Disney releases its live action Moana remake this week. And while Catherine Laga'aia has natural curls that match the animated Moana’s perfectly, the film puts her i

Jul 9
6 min

Why Are Some Animals Curly?

Why do some animals -- poodles, alpacas etc -- have curly hair and others don’t? We investigate how hair types help animals do their jobs, from swimming to mating and kee

Jul 2
21 min

Dirty Secrets The Beauty Industry Doesnt Want You To Know

I spent months investigating how haircare products are made — interviewing cosmetic chemists, testing formulas, and learning what it really takes to create a product I’d

Jun 25
19 min

I'll Never Forgive The Princess Diaries: Minisode

With rumors of a third Princess Diaries, we unpack why the original was so damaging for women, and why Anne Hathaway's recent explanation falls flat. This is our fir

May 29
6 min

For Black Women, Hair Has Always Been the Story

Two listeners of this show share how their hair has been a key part of their stories as Black women. We also discuss why Coco Gauff’s hair became something she had to def

May 1
19 min

Why Most Stylists Never Learned to Cut Curly Hair

New York state law now requires cosmetology schools to teach students how to work with curly hair.  We trace the history of haircutting and ask why it took so long for c

Apr 10
20 min

Hair Is An Extension Of Your Spirit: Native American Wisdom

We speak with two Native American hair artists about the indigenous philosophy that hair is an extension of your spirit and energy. John Parker works on Hollywood films a

Mar 19
20 min

Are Curly People Funnier? We Ask Comedians Noah Grossman, Nemma Adeni & Molly Brenner

We interview three comedians, Noah Grossman, Nemma Adeni and Molly Brenner, to find out if our hot take holds water and dig into how they think about their appearances wh

Mar 5
18 min

All The Boys Are Getting Perms

When did men of all ages get a broccoli cut? And how do they feel about themselves when they get a makeover deep into adulthood? We investigate this shift, from K-Pop to

Feb 11
20 min

Carla Lalli On Hair, Skin And Life In Hot Kitchens

Carla Lalli on what happens to your body in a professional kitchen, waking up at 13 and suddenly seeing curly hair in the mirror, and a preview of her upcoming cookbook.

Jan 22
26 min

How To Look Like A Greek God

Aphrodite: curly hair. Zeus: curly hair. The statue of David: curly hair. Ancient Greeks and Romans knew what we know on this show: curly hair is worth obsessing over. We

Jan 8
20 min

Hollywood Hates Curls. Here’s How That Affects All Of Us.

In movies, the only people with curly hair are often weirdos or witches. Seinfeld icon and 87-year-old TikTok sensation Annie Korzen unpacks how biases affected her caree

Dec 9 2025
19 min

The Politics Of Curly Hair

Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, former chair of the Democratic National Committee, explains the role her curly hair has played in her life and political career –

Nov 24 2025
22 min

Why Are So Many People Secretly Curly?

People go to great lengths to hide their curls, either through straightening or buzz cuts. We investigate why. Subscribe to our Substack for behind-the-scenes stories: W

Nov 13 2025
21 min

What listeners say

A curated, balanced selection of Apple Podcasts reviews.

I had no idea so many public figures were, as Priya calls them, “secret curlies!” like yes, ep 2 provided encouragement for this sometime-secret-curly but also a surprisingly long list of curly celebs????!!! What a cool, well-researched show on a topic that needs so much more love

annu100491 · Nov 2025

Priya’s journalism credentials really shine through in her storytelling and interviews. Even if you dont have curly hair, it’s a fascinating subject.

listener630 · Nov 2025

I can’t believe this podcast didn’t already exist! I have curly hair and feel so seen. The show is the perfect mix of informative and entertaining. I’m spiraling with excitement to hear more episodes!!

Lana’s Curls · Nov 2025

I love your podcast and look forward to the next episode. Also more info on your product line. I’ve tried almost every product ever made to tame my curls over the years. Today I simply accept and enjoy the wildness of my hair!

Anna McCune · Dec 2025

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