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Under the Scales

by Osiris Media

Under the Scales is a podcast by Tom Marshall, longtime songwriter for the band Phish. The podcast captures and brings to light the rich and complex culture surrounding Phish and its diverse, devoted fanbase. Phish’s quirky sense of humor pervades and steers the podcast. Tom will interview the band, fans, insiders, outsiders…and dare to go UNDER THE SCALES to uncover the beating heart of Phish! Presented by Osiris Media.

Latest episodes

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Trey Guitars Pt. 2 (re-release)

Trey Anastasio explains the magic of Paul Languedoc's guitars to me and Dan Kanter.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 25
48 min

Trey Guitars Pt. 1 (re-release)

Trey Anastasio shares years of guitar insights with me and Dan Kanter. Originally released in 2017. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mar 23
59 min

Tapers (re-release)

Co-hosts RJ and Jonathan and I take a DEEP DIVE into Tapers. Tapers are a huge part of Phish's history...but what are they? Who are they? Let's find out. Take a deep brea

Mar 19
54 min

The Songwriting Weekend (re-release)

In 1997, Trey and I escaped for long weekends to write a lot of songs which eventually appeared on Phish albums and became part of Phish's live repertoire. This is the st

Mar 17
35 min

HF Pod Mt. Rushmore: Carini

Sharing an episode from our other podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast, where the hosts discuss and choose their top 4 versions of Carini. Enjoy! -- Thanks for joinin

Jun 11 2025
1 h 19 min

HF Pod Mt. Rushmore: Down With Disease

Here's an episode from our other podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast, where the hosts choose their top 4 versions of Down With Disease. Enjoy! -- Thanks for joining u

Jun 9 2025
1 h 25 min

HF Pod: Do You Have to Be There to Get It?

Here's a fun one from our friends at HF Pod. -- Today we have a brief conversation about live music fandom, and whether you need to be at the show to really "get it."

Jun 6 2025
51 min

HF Pod Mt. Rushmore: Harry Hood

Here's an episode from our friends at HF Pod, where they each choose the top 4 versions of Harry Hood. Enjoy! -- We're ready to put the top 4 versions of Harry Hood on

Jun 3 2025
1 h 28 min

HF Pod Mt. Rushmore: Bathtub Gin

Sharing an episode of our longest-running Phish podcast, HF Pod. Here's the first episode of a fun new series, Mt. Rushmore. -- Welcome to the first episode of our new

Mar 10 2025
1 h 34 min

HF Pod Tweezer Draft

We wanted to bring you a couple episodes from our longest-running Phish podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast. We thought you'd enjoy some of these draft episodes. Thank

Mar 6 2025
1 h 50 min

HF Pod Phish Summer 2024 Venue Draft

We wanted to bring you a couple episodes from our longest-running Phish podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast. We thought you'd enjoy some of these draft episodes. Thank

Mar 3 2025
2 h 05 min

HF Pod 25+ Minute Jam Draft

We wanted to bring you a couple episodes from our longest-running Phish podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast. We thought you'd enjoy some of these draft episodes. Thank

Feb 27 2025
1 h 18 min

HF Pod 2024 Show Draft

We wanted to bring you a couple episodes from our longest-running Phish podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast. We thought you'd enjoy some of these draft episodes. Thank

Feb 24 2025
1 h 39 min

HF Pod Phish Album Draft

We wanted to bring you a couple episodes from our longest-running Phish podcast, the Helping Friendly Podcast. We thought you'd enjoy some of these draft episodes. Thank

Feb 20 2025
1 h 45 min

Festival Circuit Newport Folk E5: When We Dream Together (Re-Release)

For the series finale, we go back to the Fort. Join us as we bring you the sights and sounds we experienced at Fort Adams as Newport Folk returned after a necessary break

Feb 18 2025
1 h 03 min

Festival Circuit Newport Folk E4: Surround Hate & Force It to Surrender (Re-Release)

We're hearing a lot about diversity and inclusion these days (which is great!) but as we'll learn in this episode, those two words and what they stand for are at the very

Feb 13 2025
45 min

Festival Circuit Newport Folk E3: Expect the Unexpected (Re-Release)

There’s one thing you can be sure about when you go to Newport: Expect the Unexpected. From the festival’s inception, it’s been an event packed with surprise sit-ins and

Feb 10 2025
54 min

Festival Circuit Newport Folk E2: It Became a Utopia (Re-Release)

Now that you’ve heard what a special place Newport Folk has become, let’s go back in time to learn a bit more about how we got here. Guided by the founder of the Newport

Feb 6 2025
55 min

Festival Circuit Newport Folk E1: Hope and Sunscreen (Re-Release)

Welcome to Festival Circuit: Newport Folk!  In our first episode, we take you straight to historic Fort Adams State Park, the site where the Newport Folk family gathers

Feb 3 2025
47 min

Festival Circuit New Orleans E5: A New Day (Re-Release)

Welcome to episode 5 of Festival Circuit: New Orleans. In this final episode, we wrap things up by looking at what the future holds for live music and jazz fest and how t

Jan 30 2025
41 min

Chart trend

Position in the Music History chart (US), last 90 days.

#16
all-time peak
301
days in the top 50 since Nov 2024

Chart positions

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#46 ▲ 7 Music History US

What listeners say

A curated, balanced selection of Apple Podcasts reviews.

Undermine brings an intimate look at all things Phish and adds a personal touch, oftentimes giving us the feeling that we are sitting in the room and part of the conversation and the inside jokes. As a subscription (premium) member, I have enjoyed the full catalog of the early seasons known as “Under the Scales” and the premium content offered in addition to the regular non subscription podcasts. Tom Marshall’s stories, his guests, his humor and the dive into the various topics discussed make this a phan-tastic addition to the history of Phish over the last 40 years. Undermine offers insight as to why Phish is still reaching their peak. Sit back, enjoy and get more down on the backstory of the band many of us love dearly…The Phish from Vermont!

Lindalily · Sep 2023

I have listener whiplash with this podcast. The original Under the Scales was great listening and all that I look for in a podcast. Then the show went overly produced, fully scripted, and mostly unlistenable (for me). Seems to be getting back to actual conversations about Phish, so I will be tuning back in. 3.5 stars for now.

Bmsnow54 · Oct 2022

WHAT?! 100% the definitive Phish history. Unbelievable detail and in-depth inquiry. I saw Phish first when I was 15 in 1995 and never stopped. until listening to this podcast, I really never had the proper perspective on the timeline. It all makes so much more sense now. And I appreciate it on a level deeper than before, which I didn’t really think was possible. Also, it’s really touching to hear the great friendship shared through this circle of people and fans. I truly think that you could take this entire podcast, (I’m talking about the season one here that you’re doing) and create it as a film w pictures and mintages and make a visual documentary of this. I would def pay some bucks for a 5 hour Definitive Phishtory documentary! please? what a beautiful addition to a continuing homage to greatness. Thank you all :)

le uber · Jul 2021

I loved this season and look forward to more. Personally, I like some of the ‘tangents’ into other bands and other things going on at the time as it provides interesting context. Would love to hear even more from musicologists/composers about the music itself. Thanks for producing this 👏🏻

Brian-R · Apr 2021

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