Time To Say Goodbye

Just found your pod and am so grateful for the honesty and the humor and most of all the episode on data center local rebellions gives me hope.

An ~hour long uncut, unedited take of two vaguely leftist writers commenting on current U.S. political happenings, with frequent tech and sports side-tangents. Jay makes fun of Tyler for being a Luddite, and Tyler makes fun of Jay for being old. Both are hated by Bluesky liberals and remain unbothered. They adopt a slightly more serious tone for guest interviews. They could probably monetize if Tyler wasn’t such a Luddite and Jay wasn’t so old. Deep down, they don’t seem to care. I look forward to each episode

I like the blend of high and low culture and humor in this show. I could do without the sports but I guess that aspect caters to a certain demographic that’s valuable? Idk. At the same time, sports seem to be important to most people so in a way I’m glad to get exposure to it through this vehicle. It’s medicine, at least in terms of sports. Sports are not even a big part of this pod, I’m just leading with a criticism because I read a few other reviews that were critical so I’m in that frame of mind. Because I generally love the pod. It’s true I kind of fell off after Tammy left. If podcasts were worlds, the leaving of Tammy was like a collapse of the structure of that world. So the devoted listenership were understandably crushed when she left. I dabble in the Discord here and there and everybody is interesting and doing revolutionary things in their own way. It seems like with all its faults, the podcast has formed something of a community. A community with a lot of potential. Mainly I like the funniness and rakish asides that give me a sense of where people who are like me, except more successful and with access to echelons I don’t have. So I think people who so harshly diss on this podcast are kind of ‘hating.’ I initially started with this pod because of the Asian American thing. Not because I’m super into it but it was Covid times and my Asianness became salient in a disturbing way. The pod helped me contextualize that, and laugh in the meantime. I connected with Asians like me for the first time, and that felt radical. I feel like I’m expected to apologize for that, but I won’t. It was truly watershed for me. Now the pod has veered away from the AA angle and is more a critical culture pod. I’m happy about that, because it can include the POCs and white people who could benefit from the pod. True, there’s an academic tenor to Tyler the co-host who replaced Tammy, which ignites the frightened student in me who seeks the approbation of Western rationalism. I recall a similar knowing tone in my philosophy professor friend, whose vocal delivery packaged authority according to the rhythms of academic discussion, as I’ve perceived in some grad seminars, where I was petrified to speak. So I conjecture that’s what might be behind the critical views of the new co-host. All in all the pod delivers a lot, helps paint the cultural landscape in a way that doesn’t take itself so seriously (I mean, look at the name, time to say goodbye?? Confusing for search results to say the least) and it’s free. I truly don’t know how they put out a show every week like this. So I give it four stars. I would give it five, especially with the discord, but I think the pod is still finding its voice, its heart, so we’ll see.

Long time listener who greatly missed Tammy and finds the current iteration of the podcast nearly unlistenable because of its now overwhelmingly masculine energy. By which I mean: a tendency to relentless prognostication; broad sweeping claims backed by little evidence; a tendency to speak with absolute certainty well beyond one’s domain expertise (in what world do a New Yorker politics writer and three professors have meaningful real-world experience by which to judge what would be politically efficacious?). I have nothing against Tyler, but I feel the show changed for the worse when Tammy left.

I’m a longtime listener but am really disappointed with the show since Tammy left. It’s just become too casual and un-researched— feels like two bros just agreeing with each other about their contrarian takes. Also, this sounds petty, but Tyler’s non-stop use of “you know” is absolutely maddening.

I've listened to this podcast since its start in 2020. Jay's spicy, counter-intuitive, (sometimes slightly reactionary) POV contrasted nicely with Andy's orthodox Marxism and Tammy's deep smarts and humanism. Jay was the splash of hot sauce that made the whole dish sing. But now it's all overbearing spice without any of the former substance. Two male hosts with similarly "edgy" vibes echoing each other's tossed-off takes. Little prep, even less deep knowledge. Without someone like Tammy balancing it out, it's become too spicy, too one-note, and too knee-jerk reactionary. After many years, I'm sending this dish back to the kitchen.