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The Cave Project

by Jenny and Greg Swan

Since 2023, The Cave Project with Jenny and Greg Swan has explored the tensions of tech, culture, and life as they collide. Inspired by Plato’s Allegory of the Cave, each episode helps you make sense of the shadows, including AI, social media, digital habits, psychology, and modern identity, with humor, curiosity, and a few swear words.

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Our Teens Hate AI. They Love This AI Agent.

Our teens will tell you they hate AI. They also read the email our family agent sends every morning, and it keeps catching things we would have missed: a homecoming dance

Oct 9
1 h 13 min

The Privilege of Logging Off

In this episode of The Cave Project, Jenny and Greg Swan dig into the privilege of opting out of screens, social media, and AI, and why “just put your phone down” is not

Jun 15
52 min

The Feed Is Fake, But We’re Still Watching the Clips

When everyone online suddenly loves the same band, meme, creator, or viral moment… is that culture happening naturally, or is someone manufacturing it behind the scenes?

May 19
50 min

We’re Not Mad Teens Are Online. We’re Mad They’re Not Online Like Us.

Teens are not using social media wrong. They’re just using it in ways that make adults feel ancient, confused, and mildly attacked. In this episode of The Cave Project,

May 5
45 min

The Truth About Chatbot Romance: You're Not Dating AI. You're Dating Yourself.

We rewatched Her. Listened to Esther Perel do couples therapy with a chatbot. And had a fight about whether AI can love you back. Inside: the "flirty voice" debate, the m

Apr 22
59 min

Doom, Hope, Doom, Hope, Sushi: What the AI Apocaloptimist Doc Got Right (and Wrong)

Is the AI industry even talking to the rest of us? In this episode, Jenny and Greg Swan unpack The AI Doc, or How I Became an Apocaloptimist. It's a new documentary that

Apr 8
56 min

What if screen time isn't the villain?

In this episode, Jenny and Greg Swan pull up their real Screen Time stats on mic, break down the American Academy of Pediatrics’ newest guidance, and watch the Toy Story

Feb 25
1 h 12 min

This Is How Reality Ends: Not With a Bang, But a Bunny on a Trampoline

Are we absolutely sure that what we’re seeing is even real? In this episode, we dig into the increasingly blurry line between real and fake online—from AI-generated bunn

Nov 13 2025
1 h 19 min

This Feels Bad, Because It Is Bad: When the Internet Is Too Much

Are we all just… not okay? In this episode, Jenny and Greg Swan unpack the emotional and digital overwhelm of the past few weeks — from political violence and algorithmi

Sep 12 2025
1 h 09 min

Are We Being Mean to Robots? The Rise of ‘Clankers,’ AI Slurs, and the Ethics of Punching Down

Are we being mean to robots? Is it just internet snark or the start of something deeper and more dangerous? In this episode, Jenny and Greg Swan explore the sudden rise

Jul 30 2025
41 min

Is ChatGPT Making Us Dumb or Are the Headlines?

Did an MIT paper really prove that ChatGPT is scrambling our brains? Or did 54 Boston adults + a flashy press push just scramble the headlines? In this episode, Jenny an

Jul 8 2025
47 min

AI Is About to Invade the Toy Box

What happens when Barbie gets a large-language-model brain? Jenny and Greg Swan crack open Mattel’s new deal with OpenAI and take you on a 50-year joyride through “smart”

Jul 3 2025
44 min

Why Tech Needs More Whimsy, with Guest Dr. AnnMarie Thomas

What if joy, whimsy, and surprise weren’t distractions—but design principles? In this episode, Jenny and Greg Swan sit down with educator, engineer, and deep sea explorer

Jun 23 2025
48 min

Innovating Our Relationship

Jenny and Greg Swan have been married five times—to each other. In this raw and funny episode, they unpack how tech, therapy, and shared calendars helped them redesign th

Jun 1 2025
1 h 19 min

The Busy Trap

Everyone says they’re busy. But what does that even mean anymore? In this episode, Jenny and Greg Swan dig into the cultural chaos of “The Busy Trap”—from calendar overlo

May 17 2025
58 min

🤠 SXSW 2025: Anxiety, AI, and the Future We’re Choosing

South by Southwest 2025 just wrapped, and this year wasn’t just about what’s next in tech—it was about how much of it we’re actually okay with. AI chatbots are getting re

Mar 20 2025
1 h 28 min

📺 The Free TV That Watches You Back: A Telly Experiment

This week, Jenny and Greg Swan put their living room (and their personal data) on the line in the name of science. Meet Telly—a free 55-inch TV that comes with a mandator

Feb 27 2025
1 h 04 min

🧠 Brain Rot, Holiday Gifts, and How AI Helped Us Buy a Car

This episode, we’re tackling three big themes—tech, gifts, and the state of our brains in 2024. Buckle up (or turn on adaptive cruise control)! 🚙 Buy a Car via Text in 2

Dec 11 2024
1 h 01 min

AI in the Classroom: Tool or Cheating Device?

In this episode of The Cave Project, Jenny and Greg Swan dig into the AI dilemma in education: is it a powerful learning tool or just an easy way to cheat? As schools str

Nov 13 2024
1 h 04 min

Moral Panic or Just Reality? Navigating Phones and Kids in 2024

From TikTok bans to school cell phone policies, Jenny and Greg Swan break down the chaos and contradictions of raising kids in a tech-driven world—minus the overwrought r

Sep 20 2024
54 min

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