The Art World: What If...?!

The Art World: What If...?! with Allan Schwartzman

As this season of The Art World: What If?! takes a break, Charlotte and Allan reflect on the conversations that have shaped it — from artists reimagining knowledge, time,

The Art World: What If...?! with Thelma Golden

In this episode, Allan Schwartzman sits down with Thelma Golden, director and chief curator of the Studio Museum in Harlem, ahead of the November opening of the museum's

The Art World: What If...?! with Glenn Lowry

In this episode, host Charlotte Burns sits down once more with Glenn Lowry during his final week as director of the Museum of Modern Art in New York. Over three decades,

The Art World: What If...?! with Sin Wai Kin

Artist Sin Wai Kin constructs fantasy worlds to show how storytelling doesn't just reflect reality—it creates it. Through characters like 'The Storyteller', and works tha

The Art World: What If...?! with Allan Schwartzman

After a long, news-filled summer, host Charlotte Burns reconvenes with founder Allan Schwartzman to take stock of an art market that feels… different. From major shifts a

The Art World: What If...?! with Nana Oforiatta-Ayim

There is never just one way of seeing. And Nana Oforiatta-Ayim—writer, filmmaker, cultural historian, and institution builder—has spent her career proving exactly that.

The Art World: What If...?! with Glenn Ligon

Glenn Ligon makes art that asks us to look again. An artist, writer, and curator, his practice moves between the studio and the gallery, the page and the public sphere, s

The Art World: What If...?! with Kemi Ilesanmi

Kemi Ilesanmi is planting seeds for the future. Three years ago, she stepped back from running The Laundromat Project, took a gap year in which she visited 13 countries,

The Art World: What If...?! with Allan Schwartzman

Longtime podcast collaborators Allan Schwartzman and Charlotte Burns sit down for a conversation about an art industry in profound flux. After almost a decade of podcasts

The Art World: What If...?! with Agnes Denes

The artist Agnes Denes saw it coming. Machines taking over. Technology converging with consciousness. History on a pendulum swinging perilously back and forth. In this

The Art World: What If...?! with Dr. Mariët Westermann

In this bonus episode, we're joined by the newly appointed director and CEO of the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum and Foundation, Dr. Mariët Westermann, who is the first fe

The Art World: What If...?! with Deana Haggag, Mia Locks and Jay Sanders

Join us for the almost final episode of this season where we welcome back our incredible team of editorial advisors who guide, suggest — and even challenge — what we've d

The Art World: What If...?! Transforming Museums with Mia Locks, Fatoş Üstek and Laura Raicovich

What if you were embroiled in a public workplace controversy? And what happens on the other side of the headlines—would you walk away from your field, or would you reenga

The Art World: What If...?! with LaToya Ruby Frazier

This time, we're joined by the artist LaToya Ruby Frazier, just before the opening of her major new exhibition 'Monuments of Solidarity' at the Museum of Modern Art in Ne

The Art World: What If...?! with Bryan Stevenson

In this episode, we visit the Legacy Sites in Montgomery, Alabama, including the newly opened Freedom Monument Sculpture Park, a 17-acre site on the banks of the Alabama

The Art World: What If...?! with Karen Patterson

This time we welcome Karen Patterson, the Executive Director of the Ruth Foundation for the Arts. The organisation immediately became a major player when it launched in 2

The Art World: What If...?! with Allan Schwartzman

"The market is poised for a big fall, so it's more 'when', than 'what if'," says Allan Schwartzman, founder of the podcast. He's back on the show to talk all about the st

The Art World: What If...?! with Kemi Ilesanmi

We welcome back Kemi Ilesanmi, the former executive director of the Laundromat Project and one of the standout stars of our first season. In season one, Kemi was just abo

The Art World: What If...?! with Koyo Kouoh ~ Part 2

For the second part of our interview with Koyo Kouoh, the chief curator and executive director of Zeitz MOCAA, we hear about how she has worked to overhaul the infrastruc

The Art World: What If...?! with Koyo Kouoh ~ Part 1

Joining us from Cape Town in South Africa is Koyo Kouoh, the chief curator and executive director of Zeitz MOCAA for the first in a two-part special. Originally destined