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Star Trek The Next Conversation - a comedy Star Trek podcast currently about TV's Deep Space Nine DS9 (or TNG)

by Matt Mira and Andrew Secunda

Podcast… the final frontier! "Star Trek: The Next Generation" devotee and authority Matt Mira leads Next Gen skeptic Andrew Secunda into the deepest reaches of the series episode by episode and beyond! Listen as they discuss, debate, and enjoy all the legendary show's strengths, failings, and innovations. Email us! STTNCPOD@gmail.com Twitter/X/TikTok/Youtube: @StarTrekTNC Web: startrektnc.com Patreon: www.patreon.com/startrektnc

Latest episodes

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DS9 s5e3 "Looking for par'Mach in All the Wrong Places"

In a crazy twist, DS9 reveals that Dax and Worf...aren't already messing around? And in another crazy twist - O'Brien and prego Kira are super hot for each other? But you

Sep 10
2 h 08 min

DS9 s5e2 "The Ship"

A Jem'Hadar warship crashes as we welcome Muñiz, DS9's new beloved member of the crew! Matt, meanwhile, is on his last nerve with Dax's shenanigans, and the Jem'Hadar pro

Aug 27
2 h 28 min

DS9 s5e1 "Apocalypse Rising"

Starfleet needs the greatest ninja-SEAL infiltration team in the galaxy to go deep behind Klingon lines and expose Gowron - so they send space station manager Sisko, engi

Aug 8
2 h 18 min

DS9 s4e26 "Broken Link"

Odo is melting! He's mellllting! And the only ones who can save him are the other creepo changelings. Meanwhile, Garak buckles up to become possibly the greatest side cha

Jul 31
2 h 17 min

DS9 s4e25 "Body Parts"

Keiko's got a bun in the oven... but is it in someone else's bakery? And Quark faces mortality as Jeffrey Combs returns...but which Jeffrey Combs?? [Episode discussion b

Jul 18
2 h 23 min

DS9 s4e24 "The Quickening"

Direct from Andy's parents' apartment, here's your delayed ep of DS9 TNC! Bashir and Dax visit a planet of diseased folks - can Bashir save them? Or will he get too mired

Jul 2
2 h 27 min

DS9 s4e23 "To the Death"

In a plot-packed thrill ride, the crew team up with the Gom Jabbars (or so Jay Leno thinks), Jeffrey Combs continues his unbroken Trek character home run streak, and Matt

Jun 5
2 h 49 min

DS9 s4e22 "For the Cause"

An Andy's Theory (or prediction?) finally comes true - SECUNDA!! And is Kasidy Yates up to something? The crew continues to discuss her whether she's onscreen or off. [E

May 30
2 h 54 min

DS9 s4e21 "The Muse"

Jake gets an alien writing teacher who wants to teach him how to be a famous writer and Lwaxana is back in town! Lwaxana and Jake-writing-episode fans rejoice! [Episode

May 15
2 h 18 min

DS9 s4e20 "Shattered Mirror"

After a casual hang with Mirror Jennifer Sisko, Jake and Ben take a day trip back to the Mirror Universe to help MirrO'Brien fix up the the MirroDefiant. Meanwhile, is th

Apr 23
2 h 10 min

DS9 s4e19 "Hard Time"

O'Brien torture porn in full swing! The Chief is put behind bars... and when he gets out Bashir can't wait to box out Keiko for their reunion! [ENDING WAS CLIPPED, DELETE

Apr 11
2 h 20 min

DS9 s4e18 "Rules of Engagement"

Sisko takes time out of running the station to defend Worf from being too Klingon-y. Is it another great Trek legal foray or will this episode be overruled by Matt or And

Mar 27
2 h 26 min

DS9 s4e17 "Accession"

The Sisko is joined by another guy who thinks he's the Emmisary (what, can ANYBODY call themselves an emmisary?) and quiet discussion ensues! Oh, and a casual homicide. A

Mar 22
2 h 04 min

DS9 s4e16 "Bar Association"

Rom becomes a union man! O'Brien reveals just how bored he was on the Enterprise! And Worf...is vaguely disgruntled with living on DS9? [Episode discussion begins around

Feb 22
2 h 24 min

DS9 s4e15 "Sons of Mogh"

Tony Todd returns, killing it as Kurn as he demands that Worf kills him! Is Worf's solution honorable or extra weird and messed up? [Episode discussion begins around 55:

Feb 7
2 h 09 min

DS9 s4e14 "Return to Grace"

It's back-to-back weirdos being weird about Kira, but this time it's Dukat! In an A plot that runs the length of the episode without check-ins back at the station, Kira a

Jan 21
1 h 44 min

DS9 s4e13 "Crossfire"

Kira forgets about Odo in this heart-breaking, difficult-to-watch, but undeniably great episode. And Odo FINALLY doesn't forget to use his T-1000 silver weapon hands to d

Jan 8
2 h 07 min

DS9 s4e12 "Paradise Lost"

Is a badmiral trying to Make Earth Great Again? Has Avery Brooks finally found a plot to match the size of his performance? And can he outsmart Not Nick Lacarno from Not

Dec 23 2025
2 h 13 min

DS9 s4e11 "Homefront"

Dangers abound back in Sector 001 and that means it's time for a Sisko family vay-cay! Ben and his dad perform at the top of their lungs, Odo escapes Dax's merciless bull

Dec 2 2025
2 h 02 min

DS9 s4e10 "Our Man Bashir"

Is Bashir the greatest Bond of all? If so, nobody tell Cubby Broccoli's legal department! [Episode discussion begins around 1:01]

Nov 18 2025
2 h 17 min

What listeners say

A curated, balanced selection of Apple Podcasts reviews.

Matt and Andy are witty and have great chemistry. They have a great bromance worthy of a Kirk, Spock and McCoy. Reminds me of discussing Trek with one of my best friends with the added incite of tv writers. When someone is having a discussion on a podcast and you feel the urge to yell your opinion into the phone they're doing something right. There be a whale of a good time here!

bipolarbear66 · Oct 2024

First time reviewer and long time listener. The last few years haven’t been easy for anyone, and Matt and Andy are like a refuge from the storms. I throughly enjoy the banter, the sound bites, and the community building and yes, the Star Track commentary.

AnkaGold76 · Sep 2024

This podcast series is a throwback to devil-may-care podcasts of the late aughts. Pre-over-produced, over-commercialed, over-structured, over-celebritied podcasts. Just a couple of chums, doing a deep dive on a beloved topic, for about two hours with almost no consideration for staying on topic. It’s glorious… and I genuinely now know more about Volvo auto repair than I ever thought I would. But best of all, the Star Trek content is outstanding as Matt walks Andy through episode after episode of Star Trek’s mostly best (and sometimes not) work. Love the DS9 episodes they’re doing now.

PressAce · May 2024

Looking for the perfect Star Trek pod? Look no further than this entertaining podcast! Covering TNG and now DS9. “Secunda!!!” Will be coming out of your mouth with small or big victories in life. Hearing “WEEEEEEEE” from Matt will make you smile. Understanding what a Trill is, will be discussed in greater depth than you thought possible. I love James Bonding with Matt and Matt. It’s what got me here, and I couldn’t be happier. They also cover the other Star Trek shows like Voyager and enterprise and more .

Crackinpipe · May 2024

I like this show and appreciate the actual discussion of the television series—usually relegated to about 30% of the show. Unfortunately, they’ve become a casualty of the Patreon era. the guys have devolved into well over an HOUR of mindless, meaningless Patreon shoutouts at the beginning of the pod. The bad/boring content now far outweighs the good. Find another way to do it, guys. Shout your patrons out on Twitter or something. It stinks.

Falsedragon · Sep 2024

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