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Kids & Family · ABC Australia

Short & Curly

by ABC Australia

Short & Curly is the fun and educational ABC Kids and Family podcast that makes philosophy and ethics easy, entertaining, and thought-provoking. Hosted by Molly Daniels, Carl Smith, and philosopher Eleanor Gordon-Smith, the show explores big questions for kids about right and wrong, fairness, truth, knowledge, logic, beauty, and art. Perfect for kids aged 8–12, Short & Curly is loved by families, parents, and teachers worldwide. One of the best kids shows for curious minds, it inspires learning, laughter, and big ideas that help children learn how to think, not what to think. Created by the ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation), trusted makers of award-winning children's content. Binge this free educational ABC kids podcast series on the ABC listen app (Australia) or wherever you get your podcasts worldwide Classroom Resources: Listen to the podcast in the classroom or as homework and use these resources to explore and expand upon the diverse themes and subjects covered in the show.

Latest episodes

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Wait... they didn't pay Indigenous workers and they stole their land?

Short & Curly will be back very soon, but while you're waiting you should check out the podcast Wait... They Did What!?  Just like Short and Curly, Wait... They Did What

Sep 16
10 min

BITES – Being forced to step out of your comfort zone?

It feels soooo nice staying in your comfort zone – it's so comfortable there! But stepping and stretching outside your comfort zone is an important part of life. Is it ri

Jul 16
3 min

BITES – Is it fair if siblings get the same things at different ages?

It was supposed to be the greatest day of Carl’s life – finally, his parents said he was old enough to go on the big dipper ride at the fun park. But! Carl’s parents let

Jul 15
3 min

BITES – Getting annoyed when people don’t say your name properly?

Names are really important things – they form such a big part of our identities. But for people with less common names, or names with uncommon spellings, it can get reall

Jul 14
2 min

BITES – Do adults-only areas discriminate against children?

There are heaps of seemingly cool places that kids aren’t allowed to visit – fancy resorts, or sometimes even rock concerts. Most of the time we accept these rules, but a

Jul 13
3 min

BITES – What is the meaning of life?

That’s right Curly Crew, we’re going there. We’re answering the big kahuna, the ultimate question – what is the meaning of life?  No spoilers here! But it definitely inv

Jul 12

A fairy tale by the campfire – is it okay to scare kids into being good?

At Camp Short & Curly, the marshmallows are toasty, the swings are wild, and Molly’s Amazing Cool Book Club is about to begin — but her stories? YIKES! From creepy sea wi

Mar 31
22 min

The Emperor’s New Clothes - the nudie musical edition

In this epic musical retelling of The Emperor’s New Clothes, Molly and Carl take you deep into a kingdom where following fashion rules and telling the truth is harder tha

Mar 31
24 min

Little Red Riding Hood - Why are wolves always the baddies?

Why are wolves always the villains in old European fairy tales? And is it OK to stereotype animals, or people for that matter? To investigate, Molly, Carl and Eleanor hea

Mar 31
20 min

Rumpelstiltskin – is it OK to break a promise?

Short & Curly's world-famous investigative journalist Molly Daniels uncovers a juicy fairytale scandal full of royal drama, magical gold, and a very peculiar little man n

Mar 31
23 min

The Ugly Duckling – when is excluding someone mean, and when is it OK?

A group of ducklings decide one of their own just doesn’t fit in. He can’t keep up with their games, and — let’s be honest — kind of ruins the vibe. But is it fair to lea

Mar 31
22 min

What were Molly and Carl like at 10-years-old?

Molly and Carl are celebrating a special anniversary... and you are, too! Happy 10th birthday Curly Crew, thanks for all your curly questions and phenomenal feedback. 

Mar 24
5 min

BITES – Being scared of spiders

Molly’s just an itsy bitsy cutesy spider, but Carl is freaking out! Lots of people are scared of spiders. In fact, people can be scared of a whole range of things you mig

Dec 18 2025
3 min

BITES – Driverless cars

Cars that drive themselves are no longer just something you’d see in a sci-fi movie… they’re on roads and highways right around the world. But what should happen if somet

Dec 17 2025
3 min

BITES – Grown-ups making the rules

Who’s in charge at school? Why, that would be the teachers. And who is in charge at home? Your parents or carers. Who is in charge of running the country? Politicians, th

Dec 16 2025
3 min

BITES – Cats VS Dogs

As long as kitties have been meowing, and puppies have been prowling, people have asked - which is better, Cats or Dogs? Finally, the Short & Curly crew tackle this colos

Dec 15 2025
3 min

BITES – Judging people because of who they're friends with

Molly is having a party so she’s invited over the usual gang – Carl, Eleanor, Tony Ravioli and… the Joker! Batman’s nemesis!! And he’s not a great guy, what with all the

Dec 14 2025
3 min

Should you have to pass a test to have kids?

We test for everything: to get a licence, to move to the next grade, to prove you're ready to use a pen. But when it comes to becoming a biological parent, there's no tes

Oct 1 2025
22 min

Is it wrong to think bad thoughts about people? 

We all have thoughts about other people that we’d never say aloud. But do our private thoughts say something about the kind of people we are? Or is it only our actions th

Sep 30 2025
20 min

Graffiti or Gallery? When does graffiti become street art?

Ever walked past a spray-painted wall and thought, "That's actually really cool and beautiful!" But is it art or just stylish vandalism? Molly and Carl grab some spray ca

Sep 30 2025
23 min

Chart trend

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#123
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109
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Chart positions

Where Short & Curly ranks today in each Apple Podcasts chart (US, Sep 22, 2026).

#187 ▼ 11 Kids & Family US

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I love Short and Curly so much. As a tween (12) I’ve really enjoyed watching my favourite trio get to know each other and become so comfortable with each other. I always fall asleep with this on. As I relisten to some of your earlier episodes, I’ve noticed how much you’ve gotten to know each other. I would love an episode about why adults and kids have to watch, listen, read, and do different things. For example, I’m not allowed to watch certain shows that my mum and dad watch, or read certain books. I know you probably can’t get to this, or respond, but I would absolutely love for you to take this recommendation. Love, Elaida P.S. Heard you like emoji chains!!! 🦾💋😭✨📖📚❤️😘😍😇💕🤞😉👌✌️💀🫃💭🇺🇸🤢🙁👹🦖🧱😂😒☺️😊😩😔😏😁😳👍

Elaida Seven ✨📚📖 · Mar 2025

I actually had purchased Lorrie Kim’s A Definitive Guide to Snape when it came out and I find myself constantly referring back to it when I want to discuss Snape and the complexity of what I consider to be one of Rowlings greatest characters. I always feel like the book is one that I would encounter in a college course on how important each of Snape’s actions are in the books going chapter by chapter. I would suggest that fans take time to read her book even if you’re not a fan of Snape.

JustAnotherLokiVariant · May 2024

I am a a ten year old from the USA and I love your show, It’s so interesting it really makes think about all the possibilities of how things can be good and bad and that no answer is going to make things perfect. I love how you talk about all of that but still make it funny and have a ton of jokes! I like how Matt answers all the questions ( Matt’s funny too) and Molly and Carl keep it funny! I think that usually I would think a podcast about ethics would be boring but you guys make it funny.Sorry Carl I would save Molly in a fire because she’s so funny and she’s younger. My favorite episode is the end of the world episode! Make some more episodes though. I also would like you to make an episode about Animal cruelty and how we put Animals in zoos. Otherwise good work on making your podcast! It’s the best podcast I’ve ever seen! I was wondering though if you could do braintrust from the USA, and if so please chose Glen park elementary school or Willy brown middle school in San Francisco. Taylor Swift is amazing by the way! - A Short and Curly Fan 🥳🐼🥳🐻🥳🐨🥳🦊🥳🐯🥳

Bobaisthebest567 · Feb 2024

I’ve been listening to this podcast since i was 9-10 years old and i’m 14 now and I still tune in to some old episodes. Y’all gave me the best night sleep with some new knowledge every night that I turned that play button on 💙

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