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POLITICS PANEL: Is Woke Dead? Is Healey in Trouble? Could New England Decide the US Senate? (plus Seth Moulton)

A story about a lesbian bar in Greenfield broke the internet this week. What does it tell us about the future of the Left? Is woke dead? Or did a quirky community story g

Oct 1
40 min

Cancel Culture Killed the Radio Star. A Sit-Down with Matty in the Morning.

Matt Siegel’s 41-year radio run was longer than most marriages. He was the star of Boston radio's top-rated show, Matty in the Morning, on KISS 108. In 2022, he disappear

Sep 24
32 min

Larry Edelman says Massachusetts Needs Another Miracle.

Massachusetts is full of riches. We have the best schools, world class hospitals, and a great quality of life. So why are tens of thousands of people leaving every year -

Sep 17
29 min

Lindsay Clancy, Intrusive Thoughts, and Moms on Trial

The Lindsay Clancy Trial is over, for now, but we can’t stop wondering how and why a mother killed her children after months of psychiatric treatment, appointments, and d

Sep 9
32 min

Politics Panel: Making Sense of Tuesday’s Primaries

Across the board in Massachusetts, older established incumbents successfully fought off younger rivals in Tuesday’s primaries, regardless of political platform. Does this

Sep 3
33 min

A Genocide Scholar asks “What Went Wrong” in Israel

Historian Omer Bartov never set out to be a Holocaust scholar. He started his career asking the question, ‘why do soldiers fight?’ examining the war crimes committed by G

Aug 27
43 min

RERUN: Before Lindsay Clancy, there was Latarsha Sanders.

What does justice mean when a mentally ill person takes a life? Before Lindsay Clancy killed her three children in Duxbury, there was another case. In 2018, a mother in B

Aug 20
28 min

Jascha Franklin-Hodge on why Boston Needs Safer Streets

When Michelle Wu was first elected mayor, she promised to transform Boston’s streets. Her plans for bike lanes and public transit were ambitious but achievable, she said.

Aug 13
35 min

Old People Rule America. It’s Called Gerontocracy.

America is ruled by old people. And it’s not just our elected officials. Median voting age is well above the national average. Yale University professor Sam Moyn has a wo

Aug 6
29 min

Who was the First Masshole?

Who was the first Masshole? It’s a question that dogged Boston Globe feature writer Billy Baker, resulting in some serious research. This week on Say More, Billy comes on

Jul 30
28 min

Politics Panel: What is ICE Doing in Maine?

Maine keeps grabbing national attention. First it was the unexpected rise and fall of economic populist Graham Platner, a serious contender for Maine’s senate seat. Now b

Jul 23
34 min

PATRIOTISM IS A VERB: Teaching US History to Immigrant Kids

Chelsea High School in Massachusetts is around 90 percent Latino, and the city has been ground zero for ICE raids in the Boston area. On the 250th anniversary of America’

Jul 15
23 min

PATRIOTISM IS A VERB: Rep. Ayanna Pressley is an a ‘situationship’ with America

If you ask Congresswoman Ayanna Pressley about her relationship with America, she doesn't mince words, “it’s complicated.” Pressley has come to develop strong feelings of

Jul 8
24 min

PATRIOTISM IS A VERB: Liberals have a Patriotism Problem

This July 4th, liberals are faced with an awkward milestone. The country’s 250th anniversary requires our attention, and yet, the state of national politics brings only a

Jul 2
34 min

How Boston Came Down with World Cup Fever

Despite every prediction of endless traffic, grumpy residents and societal collapse, Boston hosting the World Cup has been downright delightful. The biggest surprise for

Jun 25
27 min

Politics Panel: From Platner to Rollins, it’s One Scandal After Another.

Scandal-ridden Graham Platner easily defeated Governor Janet Mills to become the Democratic nominee for US Senate in Maine. Will his controversies hurt him with voters? H

Jun 18
31 min

“Facts Alone Are Not Enough.” This Immunologist Grew up Unvaccinated.

Dr. Elisabeth Marnik is not your average immunologist.  Because she grew up unvaccinated, she has a special insight into why people choose to opt out of vaccine schedules

Jun 11
33 min

“No Bubbes, No Bagels.” Comedian Alex Edelman Hates Shtick

Comedian Alex Edelman is always striving to be better. He spent his childhood going to a yeshiva Jewish day school in Brookline Massachusetts, and now performs comedy on

Jun 4
33 min

Say More LIVE: What Zimbabwe Can Teach Boston about Mental Health Care

 Dr. Khameer Kidia is a physician and mental health researcher at Harvard Medical School and University of Zimbabwe. He headlined the Globe’s Health Equity Summit this ye

Jun 2
25 min

Politics Panel: Was Barney Frank Right? Plus Rent Control and the Governor’s Race.

In his final days, Massachusetts political legend Barney Frank had harsh words for the democratic party. This week on Say More’s political panel, Opinion writer Joan Venn

May 28
32 min

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Really appreciated the first episode on cancer - hugely insightful, empathetic, and humane.

BakingNinja · May 2025

Excellent podcast. Shirley is a curious listener, and her questions are often exactly what I am wondering - except for when she’s a few steps ahead of me, in which case I love coming along for the ride.

HeatherSB_76 · May 2024

If you are a parent of boys, I highly recommend the Boys and Men Are Struggling episode. It definitely made me think differently about my parenting methods.

JnE 2010 · Mar 2024

Shirley is a highly intelligent and skillful reporter and her interviews are always thoughtful and informative I really look forward to each podcast and her columns for her thoughts on business and culture. Great work!

Jim Quincy MA · Aug 2023

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