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In the National Interest

by Center for the National Interest

"In the National Interest" is a podcast that explores the intersection of foreign and defense policy, national security, and U.S. politics. It is not about world affairs, but about American interests and the realist approach needed to promote them. What actually constitutes true realism is, of course, a source of controversy. And so, the series promotes fresh debate by featuring a variety of leading experts from government, industry, journalism, and academia, many of whom may at times disagree with each other. Each episode is hosted by Jacob Heilbrunn, editor of The National Interest magazine, and published by the Center for the National Interest.

Latest episodes

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Are Trump's Venezuela Strikes in the National Interest? (w/ Greg Priddy)

In the early hours of January 3, the Trump administration conducted audacious strikes on Caracas that culminated in the capture of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro. At

Jan 9
11 min

A House of Dynamite (w/ Gen. Glen VanHerck)

The new film A House of Dynamite offers a terrifying portrayal of how quickly a nuclear war might erupt and how the United States might respond. Looking beyond this Holly

Nov 21 2025
14 min

Democracy vs. the Kremlin (w/ Shelby Magid)

Moldova’s recent elections dealt another blow to Moscow’s influence, but can its fragile democracy withstand the Kremlin’s next moves? Across Eastern Europe, Ukraine figh

Oct 10 2025
17 min

Moldova's Frozen Conflict (w/ Daniel Runde)

Sunday’s parliamentary elections in Moldova delivered a clear victory for the pro-European Party of Action and Solidarity (PAS), led by sitting President Maia Sandu. Can

Sep 30 2025
23 min

Effectively Banning the Muslim Brotherhood (w/ Robert Silverman)

Calls to ban the Muslim Brotherhood have resurfaced in recent years, especially amid its links to Hamas and violent offshoots across the Middle East. Is it a political mo

Aug 19 2025
15 min

The Sorcerer's Apprentice? American Politics from Buckley to Trump (w/ Sam Tanenhaus)

What does the life of William F. Buckley, Jr. reveal about the deeper currents shaping American politics? In this episode, Jacob Heilbrunn speaks with Sam Tanenhaus, a fo

Jun 26 2025
1 h 12 min

Diplomacy in the Crosshairs (w/ Paul Saunders)

Secretary of State Marco Rubio has released the Trump administration's plans for reorganizing the State Department—a first step toward reducing what the White House calls

Apr 24 2025
26 min

Trump's Tariffs and Energy Market Turmoil (w/ Tatiana Mitrova)

President Donald Trump’s announcement of sweeping new global tariffs last week sent shockwaves through international markets, igniting fears of economic slowdown and trig

Apr 7 2025
16 min

Rethinking American Grand Strategy (w/ Ionut Popescu)

What should America's grand strategy look like in a world shaped by resurgent great powers, regional conflict, and rising multipolarity? As China pushes to dominate the A

Apr 2 2025
17 min

America First, Unbound? (w/ Curt Mills)

The second Trump administration is moving at breakneck speed to reshape American foreign policy, with Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin holding an extended phone call on Tu

Mar 18 2025
24 min

Donald Trump’s Foreign Policy Shake-Up (w/ Antonia Ferrier)

President Donald Trump has thrown another curveball into global politics, seemingly reversing course on Ukraine negotiations and threatening new sanctions on Russia in a

Mar 7 2025
15 min

The Fall of Syria's Assad Regime (w/ Greg Priddy)

On Sunday, Syrian rebel forces captured the capital Damascus and forced President Bashar al-Assad to flee the country to Moscow, ending more than 50 years of Assad family

Dec 8 2024
20 min

Trump's Second-Term Blueprint (w/ Daniel McCarthy)

As president-elect Donald Trump moves to build his second administration, will he follow the Reaganite path of smaller government and lower taxes, or will he instead brea

Nov 7 2024
12 min

Trump’s Second Act (w/ Harry Kazianis)

In a stunning political comeback, former president Donald Trump routed vice president Kamala Harris in Tuesday's presidential election to reclaim the White House. What do

Nov 6 2024
11 min

Iran’s Ballistic Missile Attack on Israel (w/ Zalmay Khalilzad)

On Tuesday evening, Iran launched hundreds of ballistic missiles at Israel in what appears to be a direct response to Israel's actions in Lebanon over the past week. What

Oct 1 2024
12 min

Harris Takes the Fight to Trump (w/ Harry Kazianis)

On Tuesday night, former President Donald Trump faced Vice President Kamala Harris for their first and likely only debate of the 2024 election season. Harris, channeling

Sep 11 2024
10 min

Who Is J.D. Vance? (w/ Harry Kazianis)

On Monday, Donald Trump announced Ohio Senator J.D. Vance as his 2024 running mate. A recent convert to the MAGA movement, Vance has championed Trump’s “America First” fo

Jul 16 2024
11 min

Are We in a New Cold War? (w/ Dan Negrea)

As Washington confronts increasing belligerence from China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea, does the West face the start of a new “cold war”? How should policymakers defin

Apr 29 2024
28 min

GOP Opposition to Ukraine Aid (w/ Curt Mills)

In a pivotal moment amidst Russia’s ongoing invasion of Ukraine, the U.S. Senate passed a $60 billion aid package for Kyiv in a 79-to-18 vote Tuesday night. Despite the w

Apr 25 2024
13 min

Turkey’s Elections: A Major Blow for Erdoğan? (w/ Greg Priddy)

Media coverage has depicted Turkey’s nationwide local elections on Sunday as a major blow for President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and his ruling Justice and Development Party.

Apr 1 2024
10 min

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