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Business Side of Music

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The Business Side of Music podcast features interviews with leading industry professionals and working musicians, offering real-world advice to help artists grow their careers and incomes. Founded by Tom Sabella and Traci Snowe in 2008, the show has a rich legacy of empowering musicians. For many years, the podcast was hosted by Bob Bender, a respected industry veteran known for his work with Ringo Starr, Billy Preston, and Curb Records. Bob's passing in 2023 left a lasting impact, and we continue to honor his legacy. Today, the podcast is hosted by Sarah Fleshner, a music industry professional with over 12 years of experience in artist management, live sound, touring, and business development. As owner of 362 Entertainment, Sarah brings fresh insights while carrying forward the show's mission: pulling back the curtain on the business side of music and helping artists succeed.

Latest episodes

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Why Indie Artists Stall: Lessons From a Spotify, Meta & Sony Insider | JC Sanchez, Orphiq

Why do so many independent artists stall out? JC Sanchez has seen it from inside Sony Music, Spotify, and Meta, and his answer is simpler than you’d think: artists mistak

Oct 27
32 min

The Modern Record Deal: What Indie Labels Actually Offer Artists Now | Sandy McGraw, President Melody Place Records

Thinking about signing a record deal? Or wondering if you even need one anymore? Sandy McGraw has worked full time in the music business since he was 15. He started in p

Oct 13
33 min

Navigating Overconsumption: Essential Steps for Artists | Dave Rose, Deep South Entertainment

There's more advice for new artists than ever: TikTok tips, podcasts, books, platforms pitching a "must-have" tool every week. Most of it never gets acted on, and chasing

Sep 22
32 min

The Royalty Registration Playbook Every Independent Artist Needs | George Macias, Lumoza

Uploading your song to Spotify is not the same as registering it, and that gap is costing artists real money. Every stream actually generates three separate royalties, bu

Sep 8
35 min

How to Price a Gig So You Actually Make Money | Gary Arbuthnot & Craig Meyer Giglogic

Why do artists get busier than ever and still go broke? Because most musicians treat the paycheck as profit and forget the costs that consume it. In this episode, Sarah

Aug 18
36 min

The Manager-Artist Relationship No One Explains to You Before You Sign | 30-Year Artist Manager Veteran James Hodgin

Most artists sign with a manager and have no idea what they're actually agreeing to. In this episode, Sarah sits down with James Hodgin, an artist manager since 1995 who

Aug 4
30 min

He's Distributed 2 Million Songs. Here's Why Most Don't Break Through | Jorge Brea, CEO of Symphonic

Jorge Brea has spent 20 years watching songs succeed and fail at scale. As founder and CEO of Symphonic, he's distributed over two million songs, and in this episode he g

Jul 7
32 min

The Music Video Strategy Every Independent Artist Needs in 2026

Music videos are no longer just promotional tools. In today's music industry, they are one of the most powerful ways to drive discovery, build fandom, and create new reve

Jun 23
29 min

Stop Giving Away Your Rights: Dina LaPolt on AI, Ownership & Artist Power

What does it really take to build power in the music industry? In this episode of The Business Side of Music, host Sarah Fleshner sits down with renowned entertainment a

Jun 9
27 min

The Battle for the Future of Live Music

In this episode of Business Side of Music, host Sarah Fleshner sits down with Stephen Parker, Executive Director of the National Independent Venue Association, for an in-

May 19
24 min

Execution Over Perfection: Real Music Industry Leadership for Indie Artists & Managers

In this episode of Business Side of Music, host Sarah Fleshner sits down with artist manager and branding expert Leigh Holt to break down what it really takes to build a

Apr 28
47 min

Built to Last (Or Built to Break?)

What does it really take to build a long-term career in the music industry? In this special anniversary solo episode of The Business Side of Music, host Sarah Fleshner r

Apr 14
9 min

What It Really Takes to Build a Sustainable Music Career

What does it really take to build a sustainable music career? In this episode of The Business Side of Music Podcast, Sarah Fleshner talks with Dillon Carmichael about nav

Mar 24
31 min

The Business Setup Every Independent Artist Needs

Most independent artists focus on making music and plan to figure out the business side later—but that approach can lead to missed income and unnecessary headaches. In t

Mar 10
11 min

The Live Show Formula: Moments That Move Tickets & Merch

What separates a good live performance from a show that builds lifelong fans? In this episode of Business Side of Music, host Sarah Fleshner sits down with live music pr

Feb 24
27 min

The Touring Playbook for Independent Artists

In this solo episode of Business Side of Music, host Sarah Fleshner breaks down the step-by-step touring framework every independent artist needs to tour professionally,

Feb 10
18 min

5 Moves Artists Should Make to Start the Year Strong with Sarah Fleshner

In this episode of Business Side of Music, host Sarah Fleshner breaks down 5 moves artists should make to start the year strong from a business-first perspective. This e

Jan 27
7 min

Breaking Artists in the Algorithm Era with Scott Welch

In this episode of The Business Side of Music, host Sarah Fleshner sits down with legendary artist manager and music tech investor Scott Welch — the man behind careers fo

Nov 11 2025
13 min

Healing the Music: Inside the Work of Music Health Alliance

In this episode, we sit down with Shelia Shipley Biddy, CFO and Certified Senior Advisor at Music Health Alliance, to explore how this remarkable organization is helping

Oct 14 2025
31 min

The Business Behind NAMM with John Mlynczak

In this episode of The Business Side of Music Podcast, NAMM President & CEO John Mlynczak shares what it takes to put on the world's largest music trade show. We cover NA

Sep 9 2025
44 min

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