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States of Independence

by Talkhouse / Cup & Nuzzle

States of Independence dives deep into the hidden histories of the world’s greatest independent record labels with the people that know them best – the founders who built them, and the artists who made them into the stuff of rock and roll legend. In season one, it’s the saga of Beggars Banquet – an iconic punk era label that would eventually spawn an indie empire. Featuring riotous tales from label founder, Martin Mills and a line-up of his highest-achieving alumni: Gary Numan, The Cult, Bauhaus, The Fall, The Charlatans, Love and Rockets, and so many more. All of them come together to tell the story of an organisation with the spirit of punk rock baked into its very DNA. ACCOMPANYING PLAYLIST: https://bit.ly/StatesPodPlaylist

Chart trend

Position in the Music History chart (US), last 90 days.

#13
all-time peak
90
days in the top 50 since Aug 2025

Latest episodes

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Ep 11: Trunk Records - with Jonny Trunk

Welcome back to States of Independence! This special episode goes deep into the story of Trunk Records, home of The Wicker Man soundtrack, Joe Harriott's Hum Dono, Michae

Jun 18
1 h 23 min

Ep 10: From BB to 4AD with Simon Neil, Mat Berninger, Martin Mills & Jamie East

In this last episode of the series we’re at the end of the 90s, a time when Beggars Banquet were signing a lot of guitar bands, but finding it hard to get any of them awa

Nov 13 2025
1 h 21 min

Ep 9: Buffalo Tom, Trevor Tanner, Aki Nawaz and Natacha Atlas

Beggars contains multitudes. Here, three very different acts from its storied roster share their own experiences of the label. Buffalo Tom’s Bill Janowitz recalls emergin

Nov 6 2025
1 h 08 min

Bonus Ep: Love, Rockets, Voodoo Dolls, and Malevolent Fire Spirits feat. Daniel Ash & David J

Bonus time! A story so compelling, we thought it deserved its very own episode. Behold: the full account of the fire that gutted Rick Rubin’s studio, destroyed all of Lov

Oct 24 2025
27 min

Ep 8: Love and Rockets feat. Daniel Ash & David J

When Love and Rockets tentatively emerged from the ashes of Bauhaus, Daniel Ash and David J were mainly looking for a way to get out of the shadow of their first, totemic

Oct 23 2025
1 h 07 min

Ep 7, Part 2: The Go-Betweens feat Robert Forster

In part two of this Go-Betweens special, frontman Robert Forster remembers his dear friend, the late Grant McLennan, the band they began together as schoolboys, and his g

Oct 16 2025
58 min

Ep 7, Part 1: The Go-Betweens feat. Lindy Morrison

For every Gary Numan or The Cult, there’s a few Go-Betweens. Those bands that stood right on the brink of breaking through – but, by some trick of fate or circumstance, n

Oct 16 2025
1 h 02 min

Preview: Fela Kuti: Fear No Man

Subscribe to ⁠Fela Kuti: Fear No Man.⁠ In a world that’s on fire, what is the role of art? What can music actually…do? Can a song save a life? Change a law? Topple a pr

Oct 15 2025
37 min

Ep 6: Beggars and Charlatans! feat Tim Burgess

It’s the dawn of the 90s and Beggars Banquet, after a decade of goth darkness, are due a little refresh. Enter, The Charlatans – a band surfing the crest of the baggy zei

Oct 9 2025
1 h 13 min

Ep 5: After The Fall feat. Brix Smith

Mark E Smith was many things. Visionary songwriter? Certainly. Enduring champion of DIY culture? Without a doubt. Lifelong grunt-worker at the Post-Punk factory? Sure, wh

Oct 2 2025
1 h 11 min

Ep 4, part 1: Gene Loves Jezebel feat. Jay Aston

Rock and roll partnerships are tempestuous at the best of times. Throw twin brothers into the mix? That’s a recipe for Armageddon. Gene Loves Jezebel were, for a stretch

Sep 24 2025
1 h 04 min

Ep 4, part 2: Gene Loves Jezebel feat Michael Aston

There are two sides to every story… In part two of the Gene Loves Jezebel saga, Michael Aston shares his own recollections of the band he formed, loved, and lost with his

Sep 24 2025
38 min

Ep 3: Cult Following feat Billy Duffy

After the split of Bauhaus, a whole new wave of goth bands step into the breach. But none will prove so pivotal in the story of Beggars Banquet as The Cult. Here, Martin

Sep 18 2025
1 h 20 min

Ep 2: Numania and The Decade of Darkness. feat. Gary Numan, John Rocca (Freeez), & Peter Murphy (Bauhaus)

Gary Numan has gifted Beggars Banquet their very first number one. So why is neither he nor the label happy? We step inside the intense backlash that comes with fame, as

Sep 11 2025
1 h 09 min

Ep 1: Birth of the Banquet feat. Gary Numan

Rome wasn’t built in a day, and neither was Beggars Banquet. The story starts in 1974 with three mates, a little bit of cash, and the dream of opening a record shop. But

Sep 11 2025
54 min

States of Independence - Trailer

In States of Independence hear first-hand the stories behind the world's greatest independent record labels. The series includes new interviews with luminaries signed alo

Aug 28 2025
2 min

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