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Soccer · David Gerson

REFS NEED LOVE TOO

by David Gerson

An honest perspective from the 3rd team on the pitch... the referees. Through humor, analysis and education, we are slowly changing how people view referees and officials in all sports. We care and have a love for the game as much as any player or coach. Sometimes even more. Youth soccer (proper football) is a multi-billion $ industry in the US. Tremendous money is spent on players, competitions, travel etc., but almost nothing spent on developing the next generation of referees. I hope that this Podcast inspires, educates and humanizes the next generation of referees for their own development and appreciation from the players, coaches and spectators they need to work alongside. 

Chart trend

Position in the Soccer chart (US), last 90 days.

#49
all-time peak
1
day in the top 50 since Nov 2024

Latest episodes

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You Can Save A Life By Starting A Conversation - Dr. Skye Arthur-Banning Discussing Mental Health in Sport Part 2

Send us Fan Mail You can love sports and still admit this: the culture can be brutal on mental health. I sit down with Sky Arthur-Banning to talk about why sport is one

Sep 2
42 min

Adaptive Soccer, Real Impact with Dr. Skye Arthur-Banning - Part 1

Send us Fan Mail A retired Army Ranger captaining Team USA after a traumatic brain injury. A World Cup coming to Georgia that most soccer fans do not even know exists. A

Aug 28
50 min

Inside SOCAL Soccer League's Plan To Address America's Grassroots Referee Shortage with special guest, Michelle Chesters, Executive Director of SOCAL Soccer League

Send us Fan Mail Youth soccer can’t function without referees, yet too many leagues treat officials like an afterthought until the shortage hits. I sit down with Michell

Aug 18
58 min

Heat, Hustle, And The Referee’s Limit & Guest on the Powershift Mindshift Podcast with Coach Jay

Send us Fan Mail Four games. Full sun. Ninety degrees. And not a single real break between assignments. We’re talking about the part of soccer nobody wants to face until

Aug 14
49 min

How Three Young Referees Are Helping Launch An HBCU Soccer Program

Send us Fan Mail You can feel it right away: this isn’t a normal college soccer conversation. We’re talking with Morgan Dunham, Zachary Eggeston, and Kingston McDonald a

Aug 4
44 min

New Laws of the Game 2026/27 with Nathan Magill, Director of Education from US Soccer

Send us Fan Mail Five seconds. That’s the new line between “let’s get on with it” and a restart that flips against you. We sit down with Nathan McGill, Director of Refer

Jul 18
1 h 01 min

World Cup Officiating Insights with Alan Kelly - PRO Director of Senior Match Officials and Former FIFA Referee

Send us Fan Mail The World Cup can make even experienced fans feel like the rules changed overnight. Players stay on their feet more, restarts happen faster, and referee

Jul 9
37 min

We Need Better Systems To Support Officials with Huck Sorock of REFR Sports

Send us Fan Mail The World Cup is almost here, and my life is about to get loud in the best way: I’m heading to seven matches with FIFA and TikTok as a Creator Correspon

Jun 9
54 min

Coach Challenges And Video Review In College Soccer with John Collins, NCAA Head of Officiating

Send us Fan Mail College soccer is about to change in ways that will hit everyone on match day: referees, coaches, players, and the people in the stands wondering why th

May 28
1 h 11 min

World Cup Concerns on the "For Ref's Sake!" Podcast

Send us Fan Mail The strangest part about refereeing is that everyone sees you, but almost nobody knows you. This week David was a guest on the "For Ref's Sake" pod

May 21
55 min

You Can Build A Referee Program That Kids Want To Join with Carlos Ledesma

Send us Fan Mail The fastest way to lose a new referee is to certify them online and then throw them into the deep end on a busy weekend. We start with a few big updates

May 14
42 min

Update! Bouncing Back After A Mistake

Send us Fan Mail A single referee mistake can hijack your confidence for days, especially when it happens in a high school playoff match with a crowd watching. I share a

Apr 25
6 min

Integrity Over Ego: Why I Took a Goal Off the Board

Send us Fan Mail A playoff match can feel perfect for 50 minutes and then unravel in 10 seconds. That’s what happened to me in Georgia, and I’m not proud of it. I’m shar

Apr 23
29 min

Brand New at 42 with Holly Jimenez - It's Never Too Late To Be Great!

Send us Fan Mail The hardest part of picking up a whistle as an adult isn’t learning the signals, it’s walking onto the field while everyone assumes you’ve done this for

Apr 16
44 min

What Elite FIFA Officials Can Teach Grassroots Referees with Jan Aravirtra, Referee Academy

Send us Fan Mail The fastest way to level up as a soccer referee is not learning one more obscure law, it is learning how to handle people when the match te. I’m joined

Apr 5
47 min

Premier League Referee Scott Ledger on Longevity, Learning and Love of the Game

Send us Fan Mail A soldier-turned-official sets a six-year goal to reach the Premier League—and makes it! Then he does an even rarer thing: he stays for over 15 years! W

Mar 13
49 min

Respect The Call, Change The Game with Kari Seitz, VP of Referees for US Soccer

Send us Fan Mail Abusive sidelines don’t fix bad calls—and they’re driving referees out of the game. We sat down with U.S. Soccer’s Vice President of Referees, Kari Seit

Feb 25
43 min

Inside Video Review with Greg Barkey, Head of VAR for PRO

Send us Fan Mail Ever wonder what “clear and obvious” actually means when the stakes are high and the clock is running? We bring you a rare, candid look inside MLS video

Feb 15
1 h 03 min

Inside Sunday League with Eric Edge from "Behind The Whistle"

Send us Fan Mail Ever wonder what a referee actually says to defuse tenssions—or how it feels to make a split-second call with no assistants and 22 players demanding an

Feb 10
1 h 01 min

Authority Without Anger: The Quiet Power Of A Calm Referee With Alex Perez

Send us Fan Mail This week, we have a true full-circle moment on the show. After listening to our recent episode with Kevin Klinger on referee mindset, Regional Referee

Jan 26
51 min

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